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Addams Family - Scratch Build?

By Shredder565

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#1201 1 year ago
Quoted from fiberdude120:

That plate from the factory would be riveted on so be sure to use the smallest screw you can find or rivet it.

Rivets would seem best..

#1203 1 year ago

Dear God no.

This.

https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/

If you need any riveting done, I'd be more than happy to do it for you. I've got the rivets and the tools.

#1204 1 year ago
Quoted from Bryan_Kelly:

Dear God no.
This.
https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/
If you need any riveting done, I'd be more than happy to do it for you. I've got the rivets and the tools.

Unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket to spend on riveting tools and supplies you will be wise to take Bryan up on his very generous offer. Bryan restored several of my pinball machines and he does a great job and he is very picky with regards to quality which is what collectors greatly appreciate.

Here are some tools that you will need to look at if you want to do the riveting yourself.

Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/tubular-rivet-tools-machines/bench-riveter/

Next Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/tubular-rivet-tools-machines/hand-rivet-squeezers/

3rd Best
https://www.hansonrivet.com/tools-machines/solid-rivet-tools-machines/hand-rivet-clinchers/

All three types of riveting tools will do the job, but you have to decide how much you want to spend and if this is something that you will be doing again in the future.

Gord

#1205 1 year ago

I get more out of this riveter than any other:

https://www.erivet.com/product_detail.cfm?itemNbr=HT-174

I use this one a lot too, it uses the Hanson dies just like the pinrestore one (which i also have):

http://www.arbortime.mountainminded.net/html/the_better_tonka_rivet_tool_-_.html

#1206 1 year ago

I also have the first one... I put in my drill press and press the rivets rather than hammer them

#1207 1 year ago
Quoted from hoby1:

I also have the first one... I put in my drill press and press the rivets rather than hammer them

I do this too.

But i find more and more uses for the pintonka one, its pretty slick.

#1208 1 year ago

if memory serves, we already used something like this on the proton pack and have a drill press in the back.

https://www.mcmaster.com/rivets/rivets/aluminum-domed-head-blind-rivets/

But, if I rivet them out of the hole, I'd have to drill the hole a little bigger so they fit in and then put a nut on the end of the spade bolt.. ( I didn't check to see if they went all the way through the board to fit a nut)

#1209 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

if memory serves, we already used something like this on the proton pack and have a drill press in the back.
https://www.mcmaster.com/rivets/rivets/aluminum-domed-head-blind-rivets/
But, if I rivet them out of the hole, I'd have to drill the hole a little bigger so they fit in and then put a nut on the end of the spade bolt.. ( I didn't check to see if they went all the way through the board to fit a nut)

Pinball machines use tubular rivets.

Head goes on the sheet metal side.

The spade lug should penetrate the playfield so you can put a nylock nut on it with a washer.

Pro tip:

Put a washer on top of the spade lug too, on rhe topside of the playfield under the flatrail.

This will keep the flat rail from cutting the artwork over time.

#1210 1 year ago

The key is ........ Proper size rivet, washer and hole for the application.

#1211 1 year ago

OK, so I went in on a rare saturday visit. the spade bolts do leave enough space to have a nut on the bottom, so I can rivet the plate.
just a question as to how so far.

also, these guys came in. I know the area they go in, just not the exact location. and I wonder if I can use this for my other post as well in the same area. the one that has the flip switch for the ramp that sends it from a bear kick, to a 'lets go thing' flip...

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#1212 1 year ago

Will be pleasantly surprised if my cabinet ships this week . looks like it's finally getting close to D day .

Also, the Big Mystery order might come in next Friday. Two more parts down and accounted for .

Now we are getting into the tough area. all the LITTLE stuff that one has to think of. Screws, nuts, bolts, switches, flashing lights...

----

Now, to figure out what i'm missing, so I can attach the middle one to the hole on the right where it belongs, and find the proper placement of the other two. all the pictures I Have are of tear downs..can't seem to find it yet.

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#1213 1 year ago

well, our shop guy had the wrong type of rivet machine, so it looks like I'll eventually be getting this... and this..

https://www.erivet.com/product_detail.cfm?itemNbr=HS-30E
https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/

gonna have to wait till august though...

#1214 1 year ago

Does this one help?

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#1215 1 year ago

actually, that was the one I knew . I just don't know what's holding it underneath .

#1216 1 year ago

My attempt at decaling.

After taking apart the Arcade 1up for modding, it was pretty clear I needed to scrap off the original art and apply new pieces. ordered some online, and this is the result. the trimming didn't go too great either, even with an exacto knife and trying to be REAL careful. I also didn't want to take it apart again to properly apply the screen decal, so it got a little squished. still, not bad I guess for a first try.

glad I'm having pro's doing my TAF decals

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#1217 1 year ago

which size rivets do I want?

I can afford these now at least ;o).

https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/

#1218 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

which size rivets do I want?
I can afford these now at least ;o).
https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/

Get the assortment at pinrestore.com

#1219 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Get the assortment at pinrestore.com

this?

>>>Master Rivet Kit
This is a neat little kit with 240 rivets and 120 backing washers. Each kit contains the following lengths and quantities of 1/8" diameter nickel-plated brass rivets: 5/32"x40, 3/16"x40, 7/32"x40, 1/4"x40, 9/32"x40, 5/16"x40. Each kit comes in a plastic divided box.>>>

#1220 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

this?
>>>Master Rivet Kit
This is a neat little kit with 240 rivets and 120 backing washers. Each kit contains the following lengths and quantities of 1/8" diameter nickel-plated brass rivets: 5/32"x40, 3/16"x40, 7/32"x40, 1/4"x40, 9/32"x40, 5/16"x40. Each kit comes in a plastic divided box.>>>

Yep

#1221 1 year ago

Will do.

My Cabinet was in decaling a few days ago. hoping for shipping next week /

#1222 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Get the assortment at pinrestore.com

I bought the rivet die set from pinrestore and attached them to a metal c clamp that I could twist by hand to install rivets into plastic assemblies.

This clamp to be precise, but it was silver when I bought it. I got rid of the middle clamp, cut the ends off the other two, and attached the rivet dies to those.

amazon.com link »

#1223 1 year ago
Quoted from loneacer:

I bought the rivet die set from pinrestore and attached them to a metal c clamp that I could twist by hand to install rivets into plastic assemblies.
This clamp to be precise, but it was silver when I bought it. I got rid of the middle clamp, cut the ends off the other two, and attached the rivet dies to those.
amazon.com link »

Yes, poor mans tonka clincher!

tonka wants $90 for an $8 clamp.
great solution.

#1224 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Yes, poor mans tonka clincher!
tonka wants $90 for an $8 clamp.
great solution.

I'd be worried about something slipping and causing a malfunction in the process heh.
but it's definetly an option.

If I'm going to use it more than a few times on this, I don't mind getting the slightly more expensive item.

My Cabinet ships in 48 hours . Thank you Paul for getting it together under difficult circumstances . can't wait to see this sucker next week .

#1225 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

I'd be worried about something slipping and causing a malfunction in the process heh.
but it's definetly an option.
If I'm going to use it more than a few times on this, I don't mind getting the slightly more expensive item.
My Cabinet ships in 48 hours . Thank you Paul for getting it together under difficult circumstances . can't wait to see this sucker next week .

I want to see that Cabinet!

Tell Paul to get my Funhouse cabinet built PLEASE! Lol.

#1226 1 year ago

next order of business is to figure out these guys.

and finally get the ball guides done.

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#1227 1 year ago

oh boy!

>>
Date Ordered: Thursday 19 December, 2019

Your order has been updated to the following status:
New status: Packing
>>

#1228 1 year ago

I may have been a bit overly critical on quality controls earlier in this thread...However you won't be disapointed with that cab, It was worth the wait .

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#1229 1 year ago

I had three other cabs to screen, so I screened yours, too. It'll be going out tomorrow, so the screens can cure.

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#1230 1 year ago
Quoted from NoahFentz:

I had three other cabs to screen, so I screened yours, too. It'll be going out tomorrow, so the screens can cure.
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Gorgeous work Paul!

Now, about my funhouse cab....

#1231 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Gorgeous work Paul!
Now, about my funhouse cab....

You're definitely in the next batch. This whole COVID thing has made life challenging, to say the least. No lumber, missing shipments of parts and supplies, and, of course, MANDATING we just completely shutdown here in Michigan for THREE months! Ugh.

I'm working 6-1/2 days a week to get it done!

#1232 1 year ago

man o man o man o man o man....

did I say o man?

#1233 1 year ago
Quoted from NoahFentz:

You're definitely in the next batch. This whole COVID thing has made life challenging, to say the least. No lumber, missing shipments of parts and supplies, and, of course, MANDATING we just completely shutdown here in Michigan for THREE months! Ugh.
I'm working 6-1/2 days a week to get it done!

Thanks Paul!

You and your staff are Rock Stars!

Thank you for everything you do.

#1234 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Thanks Paul!
You and your staff are Rock Stars!
Thank you for everything you do.

Patience, Krang. Remember, All things come to he who waits... ;o)

#1235 1 year ago

The Mystery purchase gets here next week and will be revealed .

#1236 1 year ago
Quoted from NoahFentz:

I had three other cabs to screen, so I screened yours, too.

NoahFentz That cabinet looks AMAZING!!! Sorry Covid is causing problems...

Do you cut the speaker panel for TAF too? I see one in the pics you posted but haven't seen it as an option on your website.

#1237 1 year ago

So what is your running total so far for building this Addams Family from scratch?

#1238 1 year ago
Quoted from Tommy-dog:

So what is your running total so far for building this Addams Family from scratch?

havn't bought enough from the last update. but it's still close to $6,500.

#1239 1 year ago

Giddy with excitement

7/21/2020 Packing
07/23/2020 Shipped Your order has shipped via R&L Carriers!

PRO Number:

To track

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#1240 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

The Mystery purchase gets here next week and will be revealed .

And since I still have it in hand the mystery Purchase and will be shipped tomorrow let’s reveal it.
Addams family playfield wiring for you !!
Now you can say that your game is 1000% legit and with an awesome cabinet!
You are lucky that I was able to remake it for my tafg otherwise I would keep for my self ,well it’s yours to enjoy here are some photos.
I got another 3 Taf playfield wiring.
But when I made my first one With just the manual for my guide,I like it more than the factory made.
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#1241 1 year ago
Quoted from JIMAKOST:

And since I still have it in hand the mystery Purchase and will be shipped tomorrow let’s reveal it.
Addams family playfield wiring for you !!
Now you can say that your game is 1000% legit and with an awesome cabinet!
You are lucky that I was able to remake it for my tafg otherwise I would keep for my self ,well it’s yours to enjoy here are some photos.[quoted image]

Nice work, now make 20 more. The community needs a few!

#1243 1 year ago
Quoted from Jjsmooth:

He just saved your ass.

yes, I know.

I owe 5 first born children across ten different life times in payment. and one set of sheep for livestock trade ;o).

#1244 1 year ago

I have to admit I was concerned about the wiring harness. That would have been quite a task for someone experienced. Are there any more unobtanium parts you are missing?

#1245 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredso:

I have to admit I was concerned about the wiring harness. That would have been quite a task for someone experienced. Are there any more unobtanium parts you are missing?

One of the things I'm starting to feel now is overwhelmed at where to go next.

Once I figure out the ball guides, I think all of the big, easy to spot parts are mostly in there. Now, it's time to focus on all the little parts you don't know about, or don't think about, or just have a hard time keeping track of.

I'll order the rivet stuff next week. but after that, with two big items out of the way, I think it's time to give part buying a break for August.

I'll see what I can assemble with the plastic pieces I have. I'll try and figure out the rest of the posts I still have to deal with . Maybe I can get the bumpers by the flippers set up, at least, if I can figure out what I'm missing to complete that.

And then we'll take stock of what we're still missing and what we need.
I still need a wire ramp, for instance.

Cabinet arrives Monday ;o)
Du du du du du du uuu du du...*big Drum Music from Aladin*

#1246 1 year ago

Getting the playfield to fit properly in the cabinet is next.

You might have to remove stuf to make it easier to handle.

Fitting the playfield can be a bit finicky.

I do it before its populated.

#1247 1 year ago

*The hinges and latch for light board...Not only hard to find, but when you do it takes a degree in physics to understand what you are looking at...Basically it pushes up into the top pin, and bottom hinge is bolted into place.

#1248 1 year ago
Quoted from Walamab:

NoahFentz That cabinet looks AMAZING!!! Sorry Covid is causing problems...
Do you cut the speaker panel for TAF too? I see one in the pics you posted but haven't seen it as an option on your website.

Many folks have lost loved ones to Covid, so I feel fortunate just having the challenge of working through it.

We do any speaker panel you'd like. I currently have TAF, DR?, T2, and Funhouse, along with the 'standard' DMD panels.

If I don't have it, I invite folks to ship me a sample, and you'll get a free one for helping us out.

#1249 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballinreno:

Getting the playfield to fit properly in the cabinet is next.
You might have to remove stuf to make it easier to handle.
Fitting the playfield can be a bit finicky.
I do it before its populated.

what do I need to make sure it's stable in there? I was toying around with doing this next, just to make it look a little more complete, but figured it was too soon.

#1250 1 year ago
Quoted from Shredder565:

what do I need to make sure it's stable in there? I was toying around with doing this next, just to make it look a little more complete, but figured it was too soon.

The only way is to attach the rear mounts and front hangers and see how it sets.

Make adjustments to the hangers as needed.

I also add black plastic washers to the pivots for both the head and the playfield to keep them centered so they dont scrape.

Getting these is mandatory so you font scrape up the cabinet during installation:

https://www.pinballlife.com/interior-cabinet-protector-blade-set.html

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