I'm a sucker for the bling Mirco So is would love to see a nice glitter/pearl effect on some colors to liven up the gold edition playfield.

This is great news!

Do you plan to be at Expo this year?

This is great news, but that little BK2K bomb at the end of your message made my day. Can't wait!

The CPR Vs Mirco reviews will be fun to read.

Shit now I need a BK2k. Thanks a lot. I'm trying to cut back

I would take a CPR clearcoat over Mirco any day unless he's changed it recently.

Out of curiosity, why do you say that? I've heard far more people sending out CPR playfields to be clear coated after the fact than Mirco playfields. There were some issues with the early WOZ playfields, but I haven't heard of any other problems.

Mirco has had a number of recent problems with PF boards that themselves were not the correct size (FH 1" too long for example), registration issues, holes not drilling correctly or offset, and other errors (see upcoming re-run of Whitewater). His own post this morning leaves a bit of ? as well, asking for a vote on colors. I don't want a vote. I want a PF that looks EXACTLY like the manufacturer had intended as new. TAF PFs were outsourced all several different vendors resulting in variances with each other *and* internally with different runs. I want to know what the colors were supposed to be, and use them. It's what the designer wanted.

edit: sorry, did not realize this was a licensed product. I was told differently by someone today.

You are off your meds.

Mirco is an asset to the community. I have swapped 5 mirco's and 4 cpr's. No repros are perfect. It doesn't have to be a them against us thing. I'm thankful they're available. Rick/pps is the one who granted the license to two different repro companies for the same playfield. This isn't mirco's fault.

Another Hilton witch hunt attempt. Now I want to buy a Mirco playfield. Thanks, Hilton!

Fake News

Oh this is prime Pinside drama. Don't let me down!!!!!!

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In all seriousness, I am very curious/interested to see the differences in these PFs. Anyone with the real life "unlimited funds" cheat code want to buy one of each for the edification of the forum?

Mirco is licensed anyway - But there is NO COMPETITION -> CPR is sold out, and nobody can get one from them.
The only competition would be against people re-selling a CPR playfield for a profit.

sorry, I edited as I was given bad info and told Mirco ones were not licensed.

CPR ones are plenty available. Seems odd to me that PPS would license to 2 makers at the same time for the identical product.

You really came in guns blazing. Maybe there's a lesson to be learned here.

There is likely a huge demand for playfields. Likely won't hurt either company.

Chances that Hilton was "given bad information"?

0%

Thanks Micro for running new playfields!

yeah, it was a dick thing to assume it was not licensed and not just ask first rather than believe.

my appologies to Mirco

Me too

This is great news

From Rick's (PPS) posting on potentially doing a TAF remake at some point, I would *speculate* that PPS finally decided against it due to the large volume of TAFs originally produced and opted simply take the licensing fee on the playfield repros. Given its continued popularity and availability, I would think the goal would be to reap licensing fees from at least a few thousand playfields over the next year or so. Probably beyond one vendors capacity or risk tolerance to do that many, so license to two vendors instead.

I would guess that you can easily and legally license one manufacturer in one country and a second manufacturer in another.

As for a TAFr: I'm thinking somewhat on the other side of things. I think the recent glut of playfields coming from CPR and Mirco point to the possibility that all the previous licensing woes have been worked out. It makes more sense to make as much money as possible on playfields BEFORE you announce a whole new game. If you do it the other way around, some people would probably just ditch their old one cheap and buy a new TAFr. It'd save them 40+ hours worth of work, too.

The info from CPR has been that when it comes time to pay for your PF, you have the option to purchase more because they are allowed to make WAY more than their initial allotment. To me, that means that the original IPB order fulfillment agreement, which used to be somewhat of a concrete number, is long history. My guess is PPS has struck a new deal with WMS to make TAFr's, which includes all parts used in the game, i.e. new playfields.

If this is truly the case, TAF playfields will no longer be unobtainium. Although it may end up being that there will be two distinctly different versions: Mirco's and CPR's.

Note: This is all pure conjecture. I know nothing concrete and it's all just a guess.

I reached out and asked just to check and there are ample CPR run to fullfill all needs of their customers. I had assumed that was the case as they said multiples are available if needed in the original release email blast.

I personally am very happy with what I got form CPR and think it is one of the best pfs I have seen from anyone.

The wood is definately the best quality reproduciton pf I have seen to date and the screens look original and spot on to me. There green is the correct green and even if it is not to some people, the brighter green fits the pallet better than darker and brightens up those dull areas.

First of all let me state that I love custom stuff so this question is more out of curiosity. You say that the playfield art is redrawn and you were looking at doing some custom colors. How does this work with it being licensed? I would think that if you are licensed to remake something, it would have to be made like the original? Does your license give you the flexibility to do this?

Mirco, I would really think that on the gold edition it would look great if you could add the metallic/pearl look to alot of the areas on the gold playfield. I have had this done on custom playfields before and it really takes them up a level when lighting hits them. If you could maybe make some of the accents in like a gold leafing look to give it a really bold rich look. I am thinking about doing a custom Theatre of magic playfield soon and having that done in some ares to add that rich depth to it. I don't believe you can mess up any of the colors that you are adding metallic too on the field as long as you dont make it too glittery like a bass boat finish...lol. If you want to reach out to me I can show you specific pics of the last monster bash restore I did and had the playfield done with alot of these effects on it....it was stunning.

nah can say 100% that he was

pm and pics sent...glad to help

also cool on certain titles to add in accents of neon uv reactive paints

Is the Fester drawing between the flippers the same as the original, or as it been redrawn to look like the Pinball Arcade virtual version? I know they had to redo it due to likeness/licensing issues.

Yay!! I am in for a BK2K!!

Curious to see the end result!

How did that glitter effect look?

I am really pleased that mirco has stepped up and not reproduced the williams f#ck ups in the artwork and hopefully fixed them properly.
In my opinion CPR should have done this also.

With updated/corrected artwork the mirco version should be better, as the mansion light bleed in the original williams playfields was just stupid.

Oddly enough, when I tried to purchase on of these through PP, I get an validation error that kicks me back to the login screen. Haven't had issues with PP anywhere else. Sent a PM as well.

Hi Mirco,

Could you please let us know to order? If it is via email, could you kindly give me your email address.

Thanks

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