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Addams Family Fliptronics woes.


By SkillshotExhibit

6 months ago



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#1 6 months ago

Hi all, I have a TAF that has been giving me some flipper troubles. The lower right flipper has been pretty weird, extra flips when pressing the button, sometimes dropping down unexpectedly. I made some adjustments to the button switches that seemed to work for a little while, the trouble came back and I was advised to re-seat multiple connectors, that worked well for a while then the problem came back again.

Everything really went downhill when I powered up the machine and the bottom Left flipper immediately went into the up position and the game would not fully boot up. I tried powering the machine up a few times and smelled a faint burning smell. I figured I was having a transistor issue so I swapped the Rottendog Fliptronics II board out with another spare Rottendog Fliptronics II board. The game works just fine now.

What could be blowing transistors on the Fliptronics board? I have some new flipper button switches on order, they are old and need to be replaced. I looked at many of the connectors in the backbox for burnt connectors or loose wires and did not see anything. Any advice on what could be causing this?

Thanks!

#2 6 months ago
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

What could be blowing transistors on the Fliptronics board?

Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

I was advised to re-seat multiple connectors,

Did you reseat the connectors with the power on ? If so that could do it.

Left flippers, lower and upper. Be sure both coils have two diodes on each one, and the legs aren't broken or anything.

LTG : )

#3 6 months ago
Quoted from LTG:

Did you reseat the connectors with the power on ? If so that could do it.
Left flippers, lower and upper. Be sure both coils have two diodes on each one, and the legs aren't broken or anything.
LTG : )

I always shut the game off when working on anything, so it was off when the connectors were re-seated.

Both lower flippers have relatively new pincoil replacements, both coils have two diodes.

#4 6 months ago
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

both coils have two diodes.

Are they soldered on tight ?

Wires to the new coils soldered on good ?

LTG : )

#5 6 months ago

I did just notice that one of the lugs on the right upper flipper coil looks to be broken off the plastic housing. Could that be causing the trouble?

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#6 6 months ago

Im not sure if that is a repair type situation or if would be better to just replace the coil. That anchoring ring is completely out of the plastic housing.

Thanks for the assistance BTW.

#7 6 months ago
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

better to just replace the coil.

I'd do that. Vibration will haunt you soon if not already.

LTG : )

#8 5 months ago

I replaced the coil with a new one. The game is no longer having a boot-up issue with the left flipper sticking up. However, even with the new coil the right bottom flipper is making a kind of skipping effect, extra flips and the flipper unexpectedly drops down. My guess is that I need new flipper button switches, which are in the mail. I've tried to adjust them several times and it was no help at all.

Does it make sense that the flipper button switches could be causing the bottom right flipper to drop down unexpectedly and flip up and down frequently when pushing the button?
Thanks

#9 5 months ago
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

However, even with the new coil the right bottom flipper is making a kind of skipping effect, extra flips and the flipper unexpectedly drops down.

Your flipper "Hold" coil, the wiring, or the transistor on the board isn't activating.

Fliptronics will activate the power winding (*) to raise the flipper, and then when it sees the EOS switch close, it will activate the Hold winding. If the EOS opens up, the Fliptronics board will activate the power winding again, thinking a ball hit it and knocked the flipper down. It will do this twice - that's the "skipping" effect (bouncing) you see, and then deactivate the flipper until you press the button again.

Check the coil's wiring and the hold drive wire.

#10 5 months ago
Quoted from SkillshotExhibit:

Does it make sense that the flipper button switches could be causing the bottom right flipper to drop down unexpectedly and flip up and down frequently when pushing the button?

No. I'd go over solder joints and traces on the fliptronics board next for the hold.

LTG : )

2 weeks later
#11 5 months ago

Hi all, I have an update on my TAF and I'm hoping for some direction. I'm really out of ideas. The flippers are acting strangely. Sometimes all four work perfectly, sometimes the bottom right flipper doesn't work but the upper right does, sometimes all four work but feel a little weak, its all over the place. This is what I have done to address the situation:

All four coils just replaced with new, unused coils
Replaced the flipper button switches
replaced the Fliptronics board with a new Rottendow FLP 892 Fliptronics II board

I replaced all of these at the same time, and am still having the same problems. What should I look at next?

Thanks so much!

#12 5 months ago

Hi all, the flipper buttons on my TAF are original to the game. I made some adjustments to the leaf switches on the right flipper button and for now (fingers crossed) it seems that the extra flips are under control. On the left flipper Im still experiencing random problems such as the lower flipper flipping but not the upper, or the lower flipper flips twice and the upper flipper flips once than dies. When I push down on the left flipper button and kind of rotate the button, different things happen such as the left flipper flipping several times.

I'm wondering, could a worn out flipper button cause the problem by not consistently pressing on the leaf switches? The stem part of the button that comes into contact with the switches does not hit the switch directly on the center of the switch every time.

Has anyone had this experience or have any advice? Should I replace the flipper buttons next? It does not seem like you can repair them.

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