To me ACDC Premium/LE is a shoe in for A-list if not there already.

John

AC/DC LE (I have a BIB) is a AAA+ game. It has nothing to do with being new. The easiest way to tell is when I bring a group of non pin-heads over to play. Yes, they like MB, SM, SS, POTC, and LOTR... but they LOVE ACDC. Even my kids who would rather play Xbox are drawn to it and play it more than any of the others. I really think those who are bashing it are choosing to do so because they either can't have one or they are just Stern haters (or just bad taste in games).

At least Stern is making a Premium edition, so there will probably be enough people to actually play one to offer an opinion. With many AC/DC LE's end up in collector's hands the average player wouldn't get to play or see the differences over a Pro unless they are lucky enough to know somebody that got a LE.

Stern is really making the two versions different enough that reviews for one are not necessarily accurate for the other. This was not the case with earlier Stern models that had LE's like Monopoly, Spider-man, etc... .

cool vid....hey,what kind of LEDs did you have in it? got any more?

For me personally, the question is: is the premium an upgraded pro or is the pro a downgraded premium. I think the pro is a a downgraded premium and the premium is the game that Steve really wanted to make.

Most of the speed comes from the drop targets, but only 2 of the 3 banks are drops. Also, there is a flow "hit" because of the mini, but one of the things I like best about the game is that if you never want to play the mini you don't have to, just don't select that song.

Also, on the premium, I like that you can load the cannon from both ramps.

According to Steve's interview, the premium is the game he designed. The pro was a cost cut game from that.

Yep. from what I hear the pro is so fast you can't see what you are aiming for in multi ball . I really want to play a pro because the LE/Premiums are stupid fast .

Jim

I just played a pro for about 30 minutes. The premium features are light and day, mainly the drop targets.

I don't think the pro is noticeably faster, the ball might bounce a little slower coming off the drops, but once the drops are down you're basically bouncing off a rubber band.

I've played now 50+ games on each and I can say they are very very close to the same speed.

it is pretty fast

Wasn't me, but whatever. I rated those pins almost a week before this thread appeared, too. I guess Pinside has become a place where you are only allowed to have an opinion if it matches that of the masses.

Hmmm, I live in VA but am a resident of another state. How is that possible?

Not true. Nobody can argue an opinion. If that is your opinion, nobody can tell you what to think.

I think the differences of opinion stem from the OP asked if AC/DC LE is comparable to the A listers.

Cut and pasted so you don't have to look it up.

The title just mentions AC/DC, which I can understand the mistake, but you called out others for reading comprehension when they have just responded to what you have posted.

People discounted your opinion because you haven't played it. Might as well review AC/DC next album based on their previous stuff. Same analogy as the Pro and LE seem different enough not to be the same pin.

When you do play one someday, and if you still do not like it, nobody should give you any grief as it is your opinion. You have the same right to dislike it as somebody has to like it.

AC/DC as it sits now has potential. The problem is, with an incomplete ruleset, who know how it'll be. I'm seriously hoping they go above and beyond.

Fair enough, but my comments were based on this. He's comparing the Pro to those titles.

Yesssss!!!

What does that say for stern if some people think you can't form a true opinion of the game based on playing the pro version as opposed to the premium or le?

in my opinion someday acdc will rival sm. it is that good. only detractor, for some, is personal distaste of the band.

+1...How you doin' Doc?

Says they are making 2 different games with the same theme geared to two different clientele. Earlier LE weren't that way.

Early LE's like Monopoly, Spider-man, Elvis, Lord of the Rings were mainly cosmetic differences. People were not happy that extra money really didn't get you too much extra. Now LE's have different rule sets, mods, power balls, inserts, toys, mini-playfields, etc... Play IS different now compared to the earlier LE's where translites and trim were the only differences.

Different LE's.

It says that they are doing a great job of adding value to the LE's as they are now considered different games.

I am looking forward to your thoughts. That's a game I want and we both are doing the AcDc. Let me know if that's. Classic worth dealing with or stay NiB.

They are just so different. MB is a classic with great humor. AC/DC fast and furious. Collections are best with a variety of different pins..