(Topic ID: 16663)
Sana'a
Edenton, NC
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:"Get yourself a T2 and listen to AC/DC on your headphones"
Ha, loved that at the end. Funny. 
"Get yourself a T2 and listen to AC/DC on your headphones"
That is really stupid. The feel, even on the Pro, is nothing like T2. That's like comparing Tron to Funhouse.
Also, how can a review not show the color changing LEDs? One of the coolest features that makes every game around it look outdated is how it changes the GI from red to blue to white.
This is a terrible review that makes the game look really lame. I have no interest in AC/DC, but I like the Pro, and love the Premium and BIBLE (Haven't played LTBR yet).
Quoted from Virtua:Also, how can a review not show the color changing LEDs? One of the coolest features that makes every game around it look outdated is how it changes the GI from red to blue to white.
He said it was an early prototype Premium. Maybe that feature hadn't been implemented yet.
Quoted from Virtua:"Get yourself a T2 and listen to AC/DC on your headphones"
True. AC/DC on headphones will be in stereo, whereas the pinball machine's audio is in mono with two midrange speakers, one of which is crossed over to play higher frequences of the same channel.
I didn't realize pointing out similar shot layouts was stupid. I do apologise for my own stupidity of thinking shots on a game on an angled field with flippers were similar to a game of the same angled playfield style and similar looking shot layout.
I can see a lot of similarities on shot layouts on a lot of games.. I guess I'm REALLY stupid.
I don't have a T2 so I can't compare. But I do think making a $5000+ piece of electronic equipment that pays homage to a popular band should not have 1-channel audio.
Quoted from McCune:GoneFishinLvMsg said:Get yourself a T2 and listen to AC/DC on your headphones"
hahaha!
Really ? It is nothing like T2, Let it go man ..
Jim
When I first saw the layout, I thought it looked just like t2.
Although there are a lot of similarities to the layout, T2 is back in the stone ages compared to a modern Stern (from a software perspective). I do find it funny that Stern cleared the window of the lower playfield. I'm sure they did this as a cost cutting solution to damage from the cannon or so they won't have to replace scratched up windows. The bell looks very cool and the drop targets are a major plus IMHO. Color changes LEDs look cool.
Quoted from markmon:When I first saw the layout, I thought it looked just like t2.
I agree with that , I don't agree with the ipod and T2 statement .. After playing around 300 games I can tell everyone that AC/DC does not even come close to playing like a T2 !
AC/DC is a killer game .
This review is very premature !
Jim
I think the review is fine it shows the pros and cons. I own one so i am not hating at all 
Like i said in the other thread; I brought up the Clearcoat issue before and got told by a few i had no idea what i was talking about. Even though i spray cars all the time. Is it that bad NOPE but it is a unforeseen reaction just like i said a month ago. Had there been a test spray this would have been caught.
I only posted this because so many missed out last time and well the rest got butt hurt over it. It is what it is and i think it highlights more positive things than negative.
Beecroft
It was meant to be on a paid private forum it got leaked. Its now public is all. These are the words right from Clay's mouth to my ear.
Quoted from PinballHelp:I don't have a T2 so I can't compare. But I do think making a $5000+ piece of electronic equipment that pays homage to a popular band should not have 1-channel audio.
Exactly, the speakers look like cheap standard stock crappers....a music pin needs to blow it out!
I'd order a FF speaker kit for this one at least.....
This guy sure didn't like the game much, must not be an AC/DC fan...
Quoted from iceman44:This guy sure didn't like the game much, must not be an AC/DC fan
We all know that you are a rainbow and unicorn type of guy .
Jim
Am I the only one concerned about the play field windows after hearing BiB owners not completely happy with theirs?
I thought there was a recall and it was fixed.
The recall referred to in the past (no idea if it was real, BTW), was all internal to Stern. Supposedly they didn't like playfields received and procured a new batch. Bad ones did not go into machines. All rumor.
Note that I have on of the early Texas machines, and I'm fine with the window. No, its not crystal clear, but I wouldn't call it foggy either.
Can you take some close ups / pics of the window?
Quoted from PinCrush:The recall referred to in the past (no idea if it was real, BTW), was all internal to Stern. Supposedly they didn't like playfields received and procured a new batch. Bad ones did not go into machines. All rumor.
Note that I have on of the early Texas machines, and I'm fine with the window. No, its not crystal clear, but I wouldn't call it foggy either.
I think it would be interesting to compare the games that are out there. Not perfect I can understand, but I wonder how consistent they are.
Quoted from McCune:We all know that you are a rainbow and unicorn type of guy .
I love me some AC/DC tunes Jim! In fact, I might put the headphones on while I'm playing WOZ......Glad you are loving it, it looks cool....
I could go for a Margaritaville pin too though..
Quoted from PinballHelp:I don't have a T2 so I can't compare. But I do think making a $5000+ piece of electronic equipment that pays homage to a popular band should not have 1-channel audio.
+1
I assumed it was.... oh well. It's still fun and there is room for future improvement.
And.. I ordered one of those little yellow posts to try if it drains a lot from the bell.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:These are the words right from Clay's mouth to my ear.
Then you might want to let Clay know that the window between the playfields doesn't look hazy at all in the video. Even with the horrible fluorescent lighting above. The original video got pulled before I saw it. If that's supposed to be an example of a hazy playfield, I suggest using a better camera next time. I don't see any haze at all.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:I brought up the Clearcoat issue before and got told by a few i had no idea what i was talking about. Even though i spray cars all the time.
Rather than going back to Black Hole, I suggest you (and Clay) look at a WPT. AC/DC isn't the first time they've put a non-removable window in the middle of the playfield. The window on my previously routed WPT with thousands of plays is still crystal clear. It's on at least it's second (clear) upper playfield.
Also, there's lots of ways to do a review of a game, but there's one thing that should never be omitted. There should always be at least some talk about gameplay. There was virtually no talk about gameplay in that video. That's not a review. More of a comparison of the two versions of the games. Appreciate the effort, but the execution needs some work.
Quoted from phishrace:AkumaZeto said:These are the words right from Clay's mouth to my ear.
Then you might want to let Clay know that the window between the playfields doesn't look hazy at all in the video. Even with the horrible fluorescent lighting above. The original video got pulled before I saw it. If that's supposed to be an example of a hazy playfield, I suggest using a better camera next time. I don't see any haze at all.
AkumaZeto said:I brought up the Clearcoat issue before and got told by a few i had no idea what i was talking about. Even though i spray cars all the time.
Rather than going back to Black Hole, I suggest you (and Clay) look at a WPT. AC/DC isn't the first time they've put a non-removable window in the middle of the playfield. The window on my previously routed WPT with thousands of plays is still crystal clear. It's on at least it's second (clear) upper playfield.
Also, there's lots of ways to do a review of a game, but there's one thing that should never be omitted. There should always be at least some talk about gameplay. There was virtually no talk about gameplay in that video. That's not a review. More of a comparison of the two versions of the games. Appreciate the effort, but the execution needs some work.
The only point i made was that I knew stern would not test the clear with lexan and see if there Clear would haze there brand of lexan no more. I dotn care i own the game i just posted this video for those that did not get to see it. Dont shoot me i didnt make it. The only point of video was to show what the Le has that the pro does not. This video was filmed over a month ago.
There seems to be a mis conception here on hazzy and chemical burn which is what it is. The Lexan started life clear. The shitty ass clear they use no doubt shop line aka omni reacted with the lexan.
You think Churchill at the request of Stern uses some high end PPG or DuPont stuff lol. Maybe they use House of Color clear with a massive flex agent in there. I will believe that when i see there down draft booth they get sprayed in.....oh wait there is always poo in the clear from stern.
Quoted from jalpert:If the can figure out how to make WPT crystal clear I think we should expect that from acdc.
Both Steve Ritchie games. Go figure.
Quoted from McCune:The haze is the smoke from all the fires burning in Hell !
Jim
AWESOME!!!!!! GET OUT!!!!!! does the le say that by the way?
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Dont shoot me i didnt make it.
Your subject line said it was a review. That wasn't a review.
Quoted from phishrace:AkumaZeto said:Dont shoot me i didnt make it.
Your subject line said it was a review. That wasn't a review.
Sorry i blew up i will change that for yah.
Quoted from AkumaZeto:Sorry i blew up i will change that for yah.
Wow. Wouldn't you agree that a review should include talk about gameplay? A yes to that would be appreciated a lot more than a subject line change.
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