It's one of the commonly cited examples of "horrible art, but no one cares... because the game is fun" - proving greatness is an ensemble- not the best of the best mashup.

The PF art is just a few clips. Honestly I never noticed....

Yep

It really isn't horrible. The Premium and LE's always looked nice in person. The Angus face Pro got flack because it looked like a decal covering up a missing feature, and wasn't cohesive with the rest of the art package. The Premium, while Photoshop and not hand drawn, is still absolutely cohesive, absolutely represents the theme well, and I don't find it offensive to my eyes in any way. I find it far more pleasing than Ritchie's other truly horrible looking Photoshop games - WPT, Elvis, 24, GOT ...all visual stinkers.

And that 20% "is" annoying.

Does the cabinet come with the new reinforced corners like star wars LE/premium received?

I love the look of that apron...where did you buy it?

From what others have noted, it appears this cabinet is built to a different spec since it is a SAM game. Check out this thread - https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/daveh-is-a-hypocrite

PtownPin hooked on pinball had a pretty substantial Labor Day sale so I snagged it for around $260. Even at full asking price it’s very sweet

http://www.hookedonpinball.com/store/p19/ADDC-Metal-Apron-Upgrade-Pinball-Mod

Thanks Gorilla...did you install side mirrors?

It's pricey but very nice looking. I encourage everyone to look into the red transparent apron with the flashers under it as well. That is what I have and when the canon is ready to fire it pulses. Looks awesome.

AC/DC Premium arrived today, and everything looks great although after draining the game goes through a ball search after the 2 or 3rd ball...Has anyone had this issue....

Check your ball trough in the diagnostic. The one marked "CLR" will unload your ball trough and let you watch as the balls come back in. Run through a few cycles of complete load/unload continuously. Sometimes a flaky switch/opto will only misbehave every few times. Sounds like your issue.

Thanks....Vireland.....I'm on it now

It's the switches in the trough. My Vault Pro was totally flaky, sometimes not ending multiball when I drained down to 1 ball.

The leafs of the microswitches have a bend to them. They are curved to stick up higher, but a slow ball sometimes doesn't have the momentum to trip it, and the ball sits behind the switch trapped by it. I just reached in with a switch adjuster and bent them flat. Poof, problem goes away. takes about a minute to do ones you see how it's happening.

PtownPin yup! Blades, bolts and invisiglass installed today. She’s all done, woohoo!

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Bootyful!

That a boy ... looks awesome....I've done my bolts, tracks, shaker, flippers, color dmd, and invisiglass....tomorrow I'll tackle my Cliffy's, and try to fix my trough issue, which is annoying since it tests correctly in diagnostics.....I'm gonna try DaveH suggestion in the morning...

Thanks Dave....I'll give that a shot today although I don't have a switch adjuster

I woke up this morning, and decided to play a few games before work. I turned on the game and smoke started coming out. I shut down the game, and inspected under the play field and nothing was HOT or obvious burning/melted. I then opened the back glass and checked the fuses ...all were fine. I then turned power back on to see if I could see the problem, and nothing (no smoke). I tried to start a game and although the game started the balls wouldn't load. I then called Stern support, and after some trouble shooting (no switches fired, but they had power to the coils). We went through a series of other tests, and it looks like I have a bad CPU board (but he wasn't 100% certain). Looks like I'm down for a week or so?

The adjuster just makes it easier. You can do the same with a pair of needle nose pliers, but the slots in the trough are pretty small.

Bummer to hear about your CPU. Hope you are up and running quickly.

yea...rumor has it they won't ship the CPU until Monday or Tuesday so down for the count for a while....kinda sucks especially after u get a new game...kids are pretty upset...they love AC/DC

If you have mirror blades double check that the flasher behind the train didn't shift and the wire is against the blade. Happened to a friend. Got a humming noise and then smoke. Likely never found that.

Sounded like you just did some mods install so figured I'd offer that history up if it helps.

Any videos out there??

Yes, would be awesome if someone could do a premium vault video.
How about the removable plastic window? Were the concerns of it not being level and affecting the ball travel justified or is it fine?

zero issues with mine....

If there’s anyway you could do a quick video it would be greatly appreciated

Looks great.

2 questions, as I am looking at buying one.

1. What was your total out of pocket? Maybe line item your costs - so I know what my investment options are.
2. Did you run your finger around the big plastic insert -hell insert? Is that plastic tight and level against the wood all the way around?

Thanks - debating on buying this one or used. Leaning towards the VE based on reading info.

Thank you!

Gorilla really pimped out his game...I didn't quite go so crazy (thats a compliment to Gorilla), but I added a color dmd ($400+), shaker ($100), Cliffy's ($65), invisiglass ($300), external sub ($100) + the cost of the game, which u should be able to get delivered NIB for $6800K....my lower play field window is flush with zero issues. Its actually a big improvement over the original game (IMO) as its removable, and actually clear. The older machines had a clear coat over the window, which made it look cloudy...the other big improvement is the back box design. The VE has the a newer back box that actually tilts up the DMD in order to reduce glare. Its actually well designed.....

Any recommendation on the external sub?

What distributor did you use, thx

I can see you've calmed down

Nope, just stopped arguing with you until you had to pipe up again trying to be a smart ass.

The lower window, to me, is still not an "UPGRADE". I've played the VE and it plays good but I still don't like the look of how they incorporated the window. I still stand by all of my statements. I still strongly feel that down the road their are going to be a number of people that start to have leveling issues. It's inevitable with an insert system like that.

I am still happy that people that wanted an AC/DC had a chance to pick up new ones and I'm happy that those whom have bought are enjoying their games. I chose to try and be helpful to those people in this thread whom were enjoying their games and looking for ideas. After this response I'm going to continue to do the same and wont participate in your antics.

I love that the ACDC Ve came out people were just charging unrealistic amounts for their games and now you can choose I would say within $300 of what game you want either new or the old style thanks Sern...

I think both essentially the exact same games...we could argue all day if the lower window is an upgrade or not. My experience thus far is that there are no leveling issues, and the clear window is nicer....the rest of the differences really don't affect game play at all....

Some of us just play & enjoy them; we're not running tournaments out of our house. I feel the leveling issues IF any at all down the road will be very minor.

Anyone know where to find a dancing band cover mod? I was hoping someone would make them available again for the Vault purchasers, but I can't find anything.

+1 on the dancing band cover mod.

+1 as well

+1 also

My premium arrives tomorrow, my second time around. Can anyone help with changing the songs? I want to replace two songs with dirty deeds and shoot to thrill. Thanks.

Also looking for an unmodded cannon. $53 on eBay seems pretty high, but I may not have a choice.

That was me. I think I still have the template. If so I'll try to make another batch if there's interest in them.

Is there anyway to make the top out of Mirror PetG or Mirror Acrylic. I think a cleaner look.
thx.

I did see it on youtube:
Version 2:

Version 1:

Sudsy7 ... post on https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fantastic-acdc-le-premium-band-lighting-mod-from-kimballs

https://images.pinside.com/1/ab/1ab203f0fcb89d8ad060d8478c77813494539fc7/resized/large/1ab203f0fcb89d8ad060d8478c77813494539fc7.jpg

Check out the mirror acrylic ACDC - this would be great if made from mirror PETG instead .... AND ....we used 85vett's lighting - version 2.

Can you do this 85vett? Or can I just order the wire - light set?
thx.

I'm definitely interested and it appears there may be several more.

I played the premium VE a lot, and I have an original to compare to.

The VE is great. The removable lower playfield cover is a big upgrade. It shoots the same.

The only bummer is the weight. It's lighter, and you can feel it. If you're not big on nudging and slides, you'll hardly notice, however. And it's not THAT big of a deal. It's just noticeable.

Pick up a VE! Stern's best game with some improvements. I'll never get rid of my original, but I think this is the best VE to date. It plays nearly identical.

And all I said originally was calm down and throw in some black screws its no biggie honestly. There was no argument???until you got over emotional about a pin you don't even own and sarcastic... and now name calling.

I have a premium and my friend has a vault, there is zero difference and yeah he like I believe it's definitely an improvement... the window can be replaced now. Great idea. The aesthetic appeal is the only real change And that is subjective.

You say your happy for these people? You don't seem it, particularly getting so hung up over a minor change that bares no weight on making this vault ed pinball worse than the originals.

You keep banging on about the problems this change can or does cause ....down the road (anything can and sometimes does happen "down the road"). ok...

Let's ask so more vault owners. Are these real issues guys?

So yeah again calm down... and be happy for these guys and actually mean it. Seems to me like you've decided to pick a change to complain about on these vaults and won't let it go. No antics here I just call things as I see em. Peace

Had a PRO, played a lot of Premium old runs and now have a PREMIUM VAULT. Couldn't be happier....no difference at all. The Vault is a beautiful and great playing machine with zero issues at all.
I was offered a really nice HUO ACDC Premium (an old/original run) as I wanted to order the VAULT. But for a few hundred less (450) I decided I'd rather go for a brand new one instead. For me it was the most logic thing to do and I do not regret that decision at all.

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85vett add another to the list for a band cover!

I can't do mirror. Everything was hand made with basically a dremil. Replied to your pm. If you have the tools to do this easier I'll help out where I can to let you take over. No real desires to make these again but will to help out some new owners.

Go look at any game mass produced with a large insert like that (creature, black hole, genisis, haunted house, etc) and tell me if you don't see a large percentage of them with level issue that cause premature pf wear and or effects the ball. I'd much rather wind up with some haze from a permanent insert over that any day of the week and twice on sunday. I've been screwed by that several times in league and tournaments. I'm a competitive player and introducing that risk to a game will never be considered an improvement to me.

My argument was that it's not an UPGRADE and I stand by that. I'm of the opinion stern did that as they were too afraid of ghosting on it.