AC/DC (LE)
Stern, 2012
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Quoted from CaptainNeo:I have to agree helan is hotter than luci. I'm all about T&A, but the way luci turned out, she looks like white trash instead of sexy. Very disappointed. And I even had the chance to trade my premium for a luci, but did not, because of that factor. Would rather have the Amp case than white (or purple rather) trash.
Yeah but Helen can be remade. Anyone can start making more, even on your ink jet printer. Luci is less than 200 and will remain that way forever IMO!
Quoted from CaptainNeo:don't care, if it looks shitty, what am I missing out on? Having it in your head that limited edition adds some sort of value in this hobby, just makes you overpay and lose money on stuff.
"LE" adding value is a constant, hard fact. Not even debatable. The variable us wether the buyer got a decent entrance price and if the market holds flat, decreases or increases in price over time. Again, LE always adds value when compared to non LE.
Quoted from CaptainNeo:actually no. most LE's do not go up in value. 2% of them actually go up in value.
Actually yes. From inception...or the day of manufacture, an LE is worth more than a non LE.
Period.
Quoted from Captive_Ball:Shaker Motor http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=1352
Shooter lane protector http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2120
Shooter lane eject protector http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2787
Platics protector set http://www.pinbits.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_69&products_id=528
Bell and Juke Box protector....I have these, but Cliffys are also available on Pinball Life
ebay.com link » Stern Pinball Acdc Premium Le Bell Juke Box Hole Protectors
Great price on a shaker motor! Can't beat $99
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:Sell it. They'll run a VE in a few years and you'll be able to buy one for $11k brand new.
Nope. Not gonna happen. My sources are pretty solid too. I am the one that uncovered only 171 Luci's were manufactured. Direct info. from the Purchasing Dept. at Stern. Cannot get more authentic than that. Anyway, VE had a chance 3 years ago. The fued between Stern and AcDc's licensing gurus simmered down for about 2 months. VE was discussed. Then $$$ obstacles broke talks down again I am told. Just like the first time. There will not be a chance for a third table talk meeting. Not by phone or in person. Stern is done with acdc. Stick a fork in it, they are done for good this time I am told.
My info sources are solid but not strong enough to inform me of exactly how much $$$ the acdc licensing folks wanted. I am itching to know. I was told that leaking the financial numbers would violate terms of the previous contract and that acdc could actually sue Stern for revealing it within something like 50 years. I dunno. That is what I was told. Sooooo, no v.e. bud.
I actually wish they would ve Luci. Even though I own a Luci. I never felt it was good business to have less Luci's than bib or ltbr le versions. Those owners got hosed because Luci is actually more rare than either of them. So, I would have been ok with running another 200-500 Luci's so that the LE owners had their rightful scarcity in their acdc model.
Frosty
Quoted from Concretehardt:LMAO I have owned AC/DC Prem, LUCI and now a Bible and rest assured us BIB LE owners are not worried about our "rightful scarcity" BIBLE is bad ass!
Lmao 2. I have spoke with many and yes all of expressed disappointment should their LE be less scarce than a "run of the mill" premium. Not sure how you figure no LE owners care. If you take a vote, or survey, I win and you lose.
Quoted from RobT:So your logic is that by producing and selling *more* AC/DC pins that it will make BIB or LTBR versions worth *more* money?
My logic is simply that LE owners were lead to believe their version was scarce. Apparently Luci Premium is more rare. I would have no issue with Stern producing more Luci's so that Ltbr and bib were more rare. Even if the value of my Luci were to decrease. No big deal.
Quoted from flynnibus:Saturation at the end of the run.. people weren't flocking to buy them.
That is how I remember it as well. So many acdc were out there that Luci sales were flat. Everyone thought the licence would be easily renewed and then more would be made. Acdc licencing folks and Stern got into a heated argument over increased $$$ of license renewel. Story is they all stormed out of the room in disgust.
That aside. On another note. I think it was Iceman5000 that had factual proof only 230 Luci graphic packages were ever produced and delivered to Stern. The license then expired and many folks wondered if 230 Luci's were made. Stern would never announce it. My source for the 171 is my distributor friend and then another friend who had lunch with a Stern Purchasing exec (name will not be revealed due to my promise and to protect that person). Anyway, 171 looks as solid as can be but not a guarantee. My opinion is it is 99.9% solid. My friendships are good ones and my buds do not screw with me or stretch facts. Also, hearing 171 from two different Stern sources about 2 years apart bodes well for authenticity...again imo.
Frosty
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