You don't need to memorize all the rules to enjoy the game. You just need to learn a few of the songs and the multiball rules (song bonuses).

The rules aren't weird. Ripley's rules are weird. AC/DC's rules are deep and different in a way most folks aren't used to. And that's a good thing.

25 games isn't enough games for Mustang, let alone AC/DC. Since you read the rules, care to share your current strategy with is?

Even better is to build the song jackpot to 100M, then collect it via a song bonus, then collect it AGAIN later that ball with 3X running!

The game obviously isn't for everybody. If you own one and you only play the songs that you like to hear, the game probably isn't for you. To score big, you need to strategically select songs. And if your strategy doesn't include going for song bonuses (but not necessarily collecting them), you need to read up. A song jackpot or two might win you the monthly tournament down at Crazy Bob's, but song bonuses are where the real points are.

IMO, AC/DC is the best game built in the last 15 years. It's SR and Lyman at their peak. Again, not for everyone. But if you're a player, you will definitely appreciate the game. The layout and rules are perfectly matched. Big risks and even bigger points all over the damb place. What more could a player ask for?

I'd ask you guys if you're serious, but I'm guessing you are. The TNT targets are the best opportunity in the game to collect a song bonus, which is easily the most valuable shot in the game. When you make comments like that, you make it clear that you're not a player.

http://www.pinballreviews.com/acdc_songbonus.htm

You have no idea on how to collect a song bonus, do you? Again, you only show what you don't know about the game when you make comments like that. Song bonuses can ONLY be collected during a multiball, when losing a ball down an outlane isn't necessarily a problem. You'll also be happy to learn that you can add balls to your multiball by making specific shots, or you can restart it by using a VIP pass.

When you have two or more balls in play, you can take more risks. I sense that you're not the type to take risks, which is probably why you don't like the game. It's all about risk and reward with AC/DC.

That may be fair to say for some games, but not AC/DC. The jukebox and how it's used in the game was Steve Ritchie's idea. Lyman has confirmed this in interviews. AC/DC without that jukebox isn't the hit it has become.

To be fair, it's also been said that Lyman had input on how MET's playfield was set up. Different designer.

If anyone's predictable, it's you. You'll never completely like any new game right out of the box. Your need to tinker and your sense of entitlement won't let you leave the game alone. Guys like you think you know better than any game or software designer. No game will ever be perfect for you and no software will ever be good enough to be considered finished. I feel sorry for guys like you. There's no such thing as a perfect game, but you guys will keep chasing it anyway.

AC/DC is an amazing game from two guys at the peak of their creative abilities. If you can't be satisfied with AC/DC, you'll never be satisfied. Try stamp collecting instead. Seriously.

Would that be the MET that you swapped out the block for a captive ball, then started a thread to tell everyone how to do it? Was that game perfect?

Every game is a compromise between casual players and serious players. That's not a new thing.

No such thing as perfection in pinball. Some of us see this as a good thing for the hobby.

It's already been inducted in the the player hall of fame. The rest of y'all can take as long as you want to decide.

You know what games are overrated? Tron and IM. Why isn't there threads about them being overrated? (rhetorical question, I know the answer)

Was it the pro at Pizza Depot in Sunnyvale? If yes, that's my game and it is hard. I installed it using default settings (6.5 degrees) and ball times were short. So I closed the left outlane a notch. Didn't make much difference. Now the left outlane is all the way closed and the right outlane is in the middle. It's still hard. No swinging bell or drop targets to slow the ball down.

You shouldn't judge AC/DC after playing only one version. They play very differently. Head north and try one of the premiums on location up there. The premiums and LE's are much more forgiving (easy d. Secondly, if you want to play that pro at the pizza parlor more, send me a pm before you go and I'll try to meet you there. Credits on me. Even if that wasn't the one you played, the offer stands.

Appreciate the compliment and the quarters. Not all the pins there are mine, but most of them are. I saw your location and my AC/DC is the only one in the south bay other than the beater at the boardwalk. Figured you went to PD. I get a lot of compliments on that BSD. The wicked fast flippers with upgraded coils really make the game. The steeper I make it, the funner it is. If you didn't get any time on Ripley's, go back some time and give that a try. It's rough around the edges, but it's a blast to play.

If nothing else, you've learned that AC/DC inspires a lot of passion in folks. No one ever talked about IJ4 or CSI like what went on in this thread. Talk may be cheap, but when people are still talking years later, you probably did something right.