I have the STLE and just traded for the AC/DC but will not actually possess it until tomorrow. I have more games on the STLE and I think it is an absolutely fantastic pin. I'm not sure you can go wrong on this one. That said, at this point in my experience if I could only have one I'd probably keep the ST but that may change after I own AC/DC for a while. 'Tis nice you have such a 'hard' choice to make. If all of life's decision could be this tough!

I think you answered your own question in your post .

If your b-in-law has an ACDC and you can play it when you want then get the ST .

If you ever want a change then you could do a swap with your b-in-law = win / win situation .

The more varied titles you can get in your area the better .

I think you'll get the full range of opinions here, since ACDC and STLE are really neck to neck when it comes to fun, action and excitement. Some will favor ACDC and others will favor ST.

I really couldn't tell since I played both machines, but only for a couple of games

I like AC/DC more...both great games though

I have neither but will be owning both on Monday!

Will report back later. But for one it would be ST since I prefer the looks and theme a lot more. I only picked up the AcDc premium since I got a great deal locally, I am paying significantly more for the STLE

But good idea to get ST and maybe trade back and forth with your brother in law win-win

Just for fun you can add a poll to your first post

There is a poll

Get an AC/DC Luci so you have different artwork than your BIL. Unless you don't like the Luci artwork or find it offensive etc.

Acdc
I haven't played st premium only the pro version of st

There is this exact same poll active by different poster I believe AcDc has the lead in both polls, but less people have played ST Premium yet

i'd do that.

If I didn't own either machine, I'd say go with ST. Better layout, more overall appeal. But since I own both and if I had to decide today; ST would hit the road. Acdc has so much going for it. That said, I anticipate this being a very very tough decision once ST is complete.

I have a BIBLE and a STLE and I'd say acdc is better, maybe cause the rules are more polished but I like the drops the canon and the gameplay I love the risk/reward.

ACDC

This is a personal preference for sure. My AC/DC LE is the funnest pin of all time. As far as star trek,I can't stand the theme & will never own one even if it's a good game. To each his own on this one!

Get acdc Luci,it's gorgeous ,acdc for gameplay and Luci
For the best look on a cab for a long time. My 2 cents

Have both and didn't vote because I couldn't decide...both great games.

Wow. I just got AC/DC yesterday. What a game! Yeah, that would be a hard decision. I have both and am very thankful for that fact.

Can't go wrong either way, flip a coin and let lady luck decide for you (best of three/five if the bit*h fu*ks it up)

Speaking as someone who has both, ST would be out the door way before ACDC. I understand your dilemma with your brother having one but there really is no rush to buy a ST right now as it will be in production for a while and you can see how the code develops. ACDC is still going to get another update and it's already IMO the best Stern ever.

I own STLE and I used to own ac/dc premium I prefer ST. I like mode based games over points based.. Don't get me wrong plenty of strategies in ac/dc, but ST is just more enjoyable for me to play even with early code. Lastly on AC/DC I know it sounds crazy but the music wore me down and I am a big ac/dc fan, but for me it became like listening to the same cd in my car for months on end.
Last note on ac/dc pin browser wasn't available when I had my game if I could of changed some of the songs it would of given the game alot more last ability for me.

ST is fun, it's visually one of if not the best looking pins out there. It shoots really nice but I have my concerns with the long term code. If Lyman was lead on the game I'd be less concerned but the current code reminds me a bit too much of games I didn't care for. Maybe future updates will make me reconsider but when comparing it against a proven winner there isn't much of a decision.

If you don't mind the lack of a cannon and a lot of toys, but a ton of gameplay, ST is your game. I have no regrets whatsoever with it. I can't put it down.

If you can afford it get the Premium, no question. If the money thing is an issue the Pro is really not short changed. But the full RGB LEDs alone are just great.

Yes to LEDs, but every single insert on the Premium are RGB (color changing) LEDs. So the whole playfield can do color effects. On the Pro only the ramp inserts are RGB.

The laser effect is cool, the extra ship stuff is fine, the metal rails are nice and the VUK is good too, but the thing that really makes the difference to me is the full color changing light show. Again though, it's bling, the Pro plays just fine.

AC/DC was Fun for a bit , I sold my NIB Premium after 135 plays in 2012 , but Star Trek takes the Cake for me ... I'm considering the Premium ..

Here's a Good lOOk at The Banker's ST LE , a Down Rite Beauty !!

A tripod is a wonderful and cheap investment.

lOOk thru my Video's over the Yr's ,, a Tripod has been used many Times ,, but Not for a 2 minute walk around bro .

I know just messin with ya. Videos with fast movement make it difficult to pick out much.

Hard to say if ST will be considered 'one or the top Stern' pins by which I mean ACDC, Tron, LOTR, SM? I do think it will be one of that group but totally not sure yet as the code might disappoint.

To me, the color changing LEDs is HUGE, I mean this is the best light show of all time (maybe WoZ is tie but, ST does not need any additional GI lights).

In fact, I am starting to question if I want to still get MMR, not that I don't think it will be great, but just that after seeing color changing LEDs its hard to justify $8k for regular insert color LEDs ever again.

If all things were equal, I would pay $1000 more just for the color changing LEDs, but you have to figure metal ramps, kickback, up kicker, laser light (meh), PF support and lockdown bar and full side armor power coated and more Vengeance movement and Enterprise toy.

To me the premium or LE is worth the money, but the pro is very nice. I don't think there will be any people saying the pro plays better (just a matter of the cost).

Easy. Sell woz. Pick up a very nice huo one later. Gives you time to play ST. Sounds like you love ACDC.

If comparing Premium to Premium I would say you get more game with ACDC Premium then Star Trek Premium. ACDC just feels more interactive and mechanical with its 8 drop targets, moving canon, bell with magnet, TNT detonator, two ramp divertors and the hell mini playfield. Star Trek wins on pure flow (ACDC is still a high flow game) but not everyone wants that when paying $6k-$7k for a game as many want a game filled with features and toys that interact with the ball.

Notice I didn't mention the mini mechanical band as I think that is the most useless feature in ACDC, lol.

WOZ and Star Trek sound like one heck of a great combo to have.

If you love flow get both! WOZ didn't have a lot of flow for me..

New Gambit, huh?

Funny, I am also trying to decide between ACDC Luci and STLE right now. Leaning Luci. I miss my Premium that I sold awhile back.

Lol ya I was confused at first when the new gambit arrived. Welcome back!

STLE > acdc shot/layout wise (but not by much)
Acdc > STLE code wise.

Code trumps layout IMO - at least between these 2 pins. theme also plays a role. But, If you must own one today, go acdc. Otherwise, wait for STLEs next update (or 2) and decide. If you miss an LE, so be it - go premium.

Funny, I have been considering selling my ACDC Premium to get an STLE. Then I went downstairs and had the game of my life on ACDC. Now I'm torn

Welcome back To the original Gambit - Gambit3113
Good to see you!

Sell me your family guy to help fund your ST

Easy J... Keep ac/dc and get ST