I'd say, "Don't hold your breath"

I'm being silly, I talked to tech support yesterday, casually asked about it, maybe something else in the future for premium.

Wishful thinking. I am off work today that would be a great day off present.

We know 1.55 is out there. Why not let us have it to play with while he works on 1.6 or whatever.

Because it is Stern. 00.1 % Chance for today. That's going out on a limb.
Al

It's Friday again. 1 week later. Are we gonna get the code today?????

I keep checking the Stern site every 15 minutes to see.

I have today off work guess I got nothing better to do so I hope they put the code out today so I can play all day.

Word is that it is complete, and was in the approval process (whatever that means) as of early this week. Heard this from 2 sources in the last 24 hours.

I have heard to from a reliable source that it was supposed to be released "this week". We'll this is the last week of the day....do or die.

+1 Papa was just extreme play testing.

It will be here soon enough, I just want it to be awesome. If that takes another two weeks then so be it.

I just upgraded the woofer in my BiB and I am enjoying playing it right now just to feel the bass! Once the new woofer effect wears off, then I might be a little more looking forward to the update!

As far as we know though, even with this upcoming update, it won't be the last and final update, correct?

Not sure. But if the update includes the bell moving , strobe lights, and color changing LED's I will be one happy camper.

Would be a nice treat for the Holiday weekend

Today would make the most sense. But I am not getting my hopes up.

What time of day did the X-Men code drop? Any news from sources

FB already posted "Where are you playing". Thats usually the last call.

lol at the votes

X-Men code came out on Wed. Aug 8th at the end of the day. So there is still hope we still got another couple of hours.

Maybe they are waiting till the end of the day so they don't have to answer questions till Tuesday.

that was 10am on his way to work.

So, you're sayin' there's a chance!?!

"Dumb and Dumber"...love that movie.

"Just when I can think you can do something any dumber, you go and do this, AND TOTALLY REDEEM YOURSELF"

I would only speculate that the new ACDC code will be released before Stern produces another run that they will want to sell. But I'm hoping sooner than that!

Cant they just throw us a bone? Just a small update.

Just the Multi ball animation, the tilt sound and Combo color changing inserts. Done. Give it to us.

I think they are smart to wait and give us something "special" but I still want it now

I agree. What I saw at PAPA would work for me for now.

Agree.
Small updates are better than no updates.

One big update and no more updates is better than a heap of small updates..

Yep spot on

I never thought I would say this but I agree with RGR :p

No it's not. If you get a ton of small updates and just want one big one then you can ignore them until they stop coming then install the last one. Then you have your big update. Why is it better for the rest of us to wait?

ok lets say they do 6 updates... one per month. Or one update in 6 months time. Would it not be better to get it all done in one go?? As you know I am against updates all together and that you get the game completed at the time of release. If that were to be the case then you wouldnt have threads like this asking wtf is going on with the code for a game that was released early this year.

You can look at it however you like.
I would still rather be playing the 1.55 code from Papa while waiting for the finished product.

Me to at least we have the game lol

Actually no. Its better for us to give some feedback and have potential for user included features to be included than to be given a finished product that may be ok or not and have it be "done" before anyone ever sees it. As for waiting for a big update, as I already pointed out, someone wanting incremental updates could get them without impacting the guy wanting it all at once. Just like many other software releases they could have incremental beta builds and stable milestone releases. The guy wanting to wait would only install the milestone releases. I really don't know why they don't do something like this especially for small rule change fixes that don't require licensee approval.

I'd rather 1.55 now and wait awhile for the next one.

Its been over 3 months and I'd be happy with the PAPA update for this weekend.

I would like a solid update the papa one was nice but didn't seem to have any rule changes etc... Get tr bell working , wizard mode maybe the mini wiz. Get us that and plan another update after its web hammered around a bit.

Well you made the choice of buying a Stern knowing they had a bad history of providing good customer service. In knowing that you only have yourself to blame. So be patient and deal with it.

Personally I would treat it like WOZ. Take as long as you want but make sure that you have a complete game at the time of release. Would you have liked to play WOZ a year ago with half the shit missing?? I think not. So whats the rush in releasing a game then waiting 6-12 months for the code to be complete.

I know that Lyman is under the pump and I am not blaming him one bit, but everyone knows that releasing a product that is not finished is bad business. If your happy with a half arsed game at the time of release then fine... But dont get inpatient when you are left hanging for new code updates.

You know the point I am trying to make... Being nitty about irrelevant time frames shows that you agree. Stern may have been around for a while but that does not mean that they can screw the public due to them being the only ones in the market. Given that they have been around for so long you would not think that you would not have owners "walking the plank" to sell games that have just been released. Sure there are some owners that are happy with ACDC, but dont get all inpatient when you have to wait 3,6,12,24 months for the game to be complete. Given that Stern release games every 3-4 months, leaving things behind will not change. The 68 other votes shows the lack of faith. Bottom line, finish the game then release it. I know that Williams and other companies have rom/ coding updates eg: stttng ff changes but these were minor tweaks. Imagine if sttng came out with no Final Frontier and you would have to wait 6 months for that... I think Stern may think that due to the majority of games sold not going on site, they can take their time.

New code won't be far off I'm sure oh and isn't this thread about the AC/DC code not about WOZ and a guy who continues to put crap on AC/DC and Stern on several forums I just hope for your sake RGR that jack finishes the code on WOZ.

Peter

Good chance WoZ will be finished when released. And there will be some bummers in the ruleset. But it'll be too late. It'll be finished and they will have moved on. I guess RGR thinks this is better than being able to provide some feedback and having it incorporated into the game.

First off, I bought a stern and do not agree that they have a history of bad customer service. So thats wrong. Second, I never said I was impatient, never was asking when the update will be out, and am not harping on it being out now. I was only arguing against your "hold it until its done" philosophy because that's dumb. It prevents users to give feedback and see that feedback added to the code.

Pffft you think our feedback goes towards changing the game play for the current game???? Any examples of this??

Yes, a ton of our feedback went into the xmen 1.1 --> 1.2 update. There's too much to list. Go read the threads of the before and the suggestions then look at the changes and you'll see. This was actually one of the benefits of the LE being released before the pro. The code was being worked on actively enough that the suggestions were able to be actually applied. Emails to and from the designers (and even between John Borg and I) were not ignored. Suggestions were definitely considered and many applied in some form.

Oh my other example is for AC/DC. In personal emails between Lyman and myself, it became apparent that users were asking for cannon ball saver feature where if you hit the desired shot with the cannon, the ball saver will protect against an instant drain. Lyman specifically said that he disagreed with this feature and did not want it in the game but since so many users were requesting it, he added it in as an option and that it will be in the next update. Now, if that update comes out and that feature is not available, then I guess you can use this as evidence that I'm wrong. But since I doubt Lyman lied to me, I'll use that as another example of this working.

Its a new era of computer design/code writing etc and also metal, plastic and electronic parts can be manufactured like never before.
It would be daunting to try to utilise all this and produce a worthy pin. You'd keep the necessary old school elements - flippers, targets etc but then things like the theme, your imagination, modern technology, budget etc all kick in so perhaps you do your best, get the game up to a standard good enough to release then see how it goes and what the knowlegeable players and owners think.
I think thats a valid way to go considering code can be added and the game improved/enhanced/advanced.
If a company wants to produce a 'finished' game straight off the bat then well and good but a lot of ideas/opinions/feedback will probably be wasted.

So what happened?