Wow. Just wow.
The images are fantastic enough, but if a song could be added even if only for Encore, that would be the best thing ever.

Man, this little program is a blast to play with.
All kinds of cool things are on the chip that never get called in the game.
A lot of Steve Richie calls are at the very end. Just slide the sound system slider all the way to the right. He calls out all the band members and what they play or sing.
Slide it just bit left and he says more cool stuff, like "Awesome Bonus" and "I haven't had a bonus like that since 1992"
Just awesome stuff.
Wish it played a bit cleaner. Not sure why everything is a bit muffled and slowed down.

I thought this thread would be rocking today.
Oh, well. Hopefully some more good news about this is on the way.

You are not stupid. It took me a bit to catch on to the potential here as well.
Basically the original poster has come up with a way to replace any still frame on the DMD with any photo you may already have.
He is using the giant STERN logo as an example of a good one to remove and replace with something better.
He is also working on getting animated video to be able to replace animated video.
Now, as cool at that is, he is going to try and get the audio clips to be replaceable as well.
This would open up a whole new world of stuff your pinball could do.
AC/DC is a great example as so many people have a favorite song that got left out of the original version.
Hope this helps, and that I got it all correct.

Don't worry. The AC/DC sounds are not the correct speed right now either.

My new favorite.
Steve Richie yells, "Fire at will....and I'm not Will."

This will be the best part.
While the DMD section is cool. I do not have near the interest in it as I do being able to add songs and speech.

This would be the most amazing step forward for me.
Can't wait to see if it comes true....
Thanks for all of your hard work on this program.

AC/DC has tons of cool Steve Richie call outs that were never used.
I love it when he gets into his Arnold Schwarzenegger impressions.
He even does the Terminator 3 pinball opening like Arnold, saying "Shoot here and here".
Funny stuff.

1.61 has nailed it with the sound.
Listening to Let there be Rock right now as I type this and the speed is perfect.
I could tell it was a bit off in 1.60.

Hopefully that is just around the corner.
It would be cool if whoever does it first has the ability to share downloads so we don't all have to re-sample these things. Might be illegal with songs though, not sure what kind of gray area that is.
But it sounds rather simple if audacity is not too hard to use.

This is Awesome.
I am leaving on vacation for a week, but hope to see more of this type of thing and some great instructions or downloads when I get back.
Like a dream come true here.

Nice way to start out.
But then hopefully when Lyman adds the ability to play the game with the live version songs, then we can play either way. The original way, and then have a whole other version of the game with our favorite songs added.

Is WPC support something you would consider in the future?
Or is their system too proprietary or locked down to make it a viable option?

Yea. WPC is not a specific game, it is just most Bally Williams 90's dot matrix tables.

Well we finally had some time to try and change out some songs on our AC/DC.
Everything went perfectly.

War Machine is now Girls Got Rhythm.
Let there be Rock is now Shoot to Thrill.
Hell ain't a Bad Place to be is now Dirty Deeds.

All I need to do now is read up on how to change the song titles on the DMD.
The graphics side of this program is not my strong point.
It is awesome to now be able to play my AC/DC like I would have wanted it.

Just in case somebody else wonders what to do after the update tells you it failed. (I had to just guess).
All you need to do is set the Dip Switch 11 back to on and remove the USB stick.
Then power off the machine and power it back on.
Thanks again for this awesome program.

Hell ain't a bad place is 4:12 on the machine.
There are two studio versions of Dirty Deeds.
One is 4:11 seconds and the other is 3:51
I had the 3:51 version so I just copied and pasted the first few seconds of the song and put it at the end like it was starting over.
Worked really well.
If you can find the 4:11 version which I will probably do myself. That would fit perfect.

Here is the studio song list locations for AC/DC to make it easy on everyone
The first number is the location in the program.
300 Back in Black 4:09
301 For those about to rock 5:43
302 He'll ain't a bad place to be 4:12
303 Hells Bells 5:13
304 Highway to Hell 3:31
305 Let there be Rock 5:59
306 Rock and Roll Train 4:18
307 Thunderstruck 4:51
308 TNT 3:33
309 War Machine 3:07
310 Rosie 5:19
311 You shook me all night 3:20

I am more than happy to share my Bin file in a drop box if someone is interested just to hear what can be done.
I have changed the following songs. But have not yet learned how to change the graphic on the DMD. I am going to work on that next. Here are the three songs I changed and what I changed them to.
War Machine is now Girls Got Rhythm.
Let there be Rock is now Shoot to Thrill.
Hell ain't a Bad Place to be is now Dirty Deeds.

I also need to find a way to start with slightly louder original sound files. These are close to the same volume but could stand to be just bit louder. Overall I am quite happy with my new song choices. The cool thing about changing Let there be Rock is that now when a game is over the machine plays Shoot to thrill.

Here is a post below by "Pinballlooking"
that gives a tutorial on how to use Audacity with this program.
It is very informative and I am reposting it in case some of you missed it.

"I created a short How-To do the dirty deeds song replacement.
This should get you started. I am not an expert on this so any questions just post and hopefully someone will know the answer.
(To progress through the demo just use the green arrow at the bottom right. This uses Flash)
http://www.usbjig.com/AC_DC.htm
Using this method the song sounded good."

This is what I need to do next, change the song titles.
I now have my song volume perfect thanks to the compression tutorial in another thread.
The three songs I added sound just like they came from the factory. I love it!!!!
How do I go about changing the text at 0x5B3 ?
I am not very familiar with the graphics side of this program.
The Audio was super easy to achieve.

How do I save the sound in this link.
All it lets me do is listen. If I right click it, the file just wants me to upgrade to quicktime pro.

Awesome. Thanks a lot.

Not an option for me. my right click defaults to quicktime which will not let me save the file unless I purchase the pro version. Crazy.
I will have to figure out how to get around quicktime being my default.

Doh!
I feel so stupid.
I was not right clicking the link.
Thanks.

This is exactly what I did and none of my high scores were reset.
Strange that yours did.

That has got to be it.

Just made my machine even better.
I have the sound levels perfect now for all songs, the text is changed for all songs, and I have now even changed out the Encore song for It's A Long Way to the Top.
Finally have the AC/DC I always wanted when it was announced.
If anyone wants to try out my Bin file just let me know and I will put it in a Drop Box for you.

Songs changed are:
War Machine = Girls Got Rhythm
Let there be Rock = Shoot to Thrill
Hell aint a Bad Place = Dirty Deeds
Encore song = It's a Long way to the top.

If anyone else wants to change their Encore song the location is 340.
It is 17:46 long and changed all the shorter calls automatically. Sounds fantastic.
Since It's a Long way to the Top Studio version is 5 min. long I just had it start over 4 times and fade out at the end. Works great.

We have searched everywhere to find the Song Champion text but no luck. I can't imagine where they hid it.

Thanks to everyone who asked for a share. I think I got the invites for Dropbox correct.
I have always had people share Boxes with me, and this was my first attempt at sending invites.
Hope they went through ok.

Someone needs to make a layered Photoshop file for the jukebox card. I have changed songs, titles, albums etc and it bugs me like crazy that the jukebox doesn't match.

I plan on doing a new jukebox card at some point.
But if someone beats me to it, that would be awesome.

Here is a fun screenshot that shows when you change the song title text, it changes it everywhere for you.

IMG_1577.JPG

You will always get the "Update Failed" message with the new BIN file.
Simply slide the DIP switch back over and remove your USB stick.
Then power your machine off and then back on.
Enjoy your new songs.

The looping section will depend on which song you chose to replace. Every song in the Stern Code has a certain amount of seconds for looping. You would need to find that looping section of the code and replace it with whatever you wish to loop. However you are stuck with the amount of time that is originally coded so it may or may not fit perfectly.
I replaced my Hell aint a bad place to be with Dirty Deeds which loops for 8 seconds. Luckily it fits pretty good and I did not have to do any editing. It's not 100% perfect, but close enough.

There has got to be a section of the messages that this program is missing somehow.
I have gone over them with a fine tooth comb, and the Song Champions are just not pulled from anything in here.
I thought for a moment it could be pulling them from the Adjustments page but all the songs in the Adjustments are abbreviated, and they are spelled out correctly on the DMD.
This little mystery is driving me crazy.

Already thought of that as well.
But the reason this text does not change globally with the rest is that it is located on two lines.
What changed when you modified these two lines is the DMD screen on the very first ball plunge of Dirty Deeds. You will notice that the screen has the first part on the upper half and the second part on the lower half.
It is a quick screen and you have to look fast to even notice it as it only happens on the very first ball plunge.
The mystery continues.

I would be happy to, but would require a plane ticket.
Hopefully someone near you can help out.
14 games sounds like fun.

A bunch of people have my BIN file now. If you want to try it out just send me a PM and I will give you a Dropbox invite so you can grab it. The file is 114 MB and a bit too large for an email attachment.

I knew it. lol
I agree, it would be awesome to have access to this table as well.

I am not sharing anything on Robins board.
He is free and clear.

We all understand your concern for Robin and his site.
No links are shared here. Even in the PM's.

Cool. Thanks for the update.
I downloaded the file last night so I could play around with it later today.

This is indeed great news. Can't wait to mess with it.

Awesome news.
What did you search for to replace as I am not at home right now to mess with it?
Just Dirty Deeds in all caps or Dirty Deeds Champion in all caps?

OGA83,
Thanks for the awesome update.
The new search string feature is great.
However, one song I am trying to replace has a longer title than the original.
There does not seem to be a way to use spare memory like in the original search.
Would this be possible to add or am I just missing something simple.

My Dirty Deeds and Shoot to Thrill are not a problem but Girls got Rhythm is more letters than War Machine.

No. There will be silence until the original songs time is up then loop back.
What I do is start the song over and fade it out at the proper time.

Bump for oga83.
Waiting for your answer before I just abbreviate my song title on the song champion screen.

Thanks for the information.
Now, I can get to work.

I had to do the same thing with Girls got Rhythm. Too long for War Machine.
In the end I just opted for GOT RHYTHM CHAMPION.
It works and gets the point across.
This is an awesome program that just keeps getting better.

Awesome. Glad you were able to get it working.
This program is one of the best things to come along for pinball.

I have been messing with 3 BIN files now. AC/DC Premium, AC/DC Pro and Metallica LE.
Have not had a chance to do Metallica Pro yet.
Here are the Song locations and length for each machine that you would need to change.
When you change this one file it does all the little snippets as well.
Just posting this to hopefully save someone new to this some time. I already posted the AC/DC premium earlier, but included it here just to have them all together.
Enjoy.

AC/DC Premium

300 Back in Black 3:20
301 For those about to Rock 5:43
302 Hell ain't a bad Place to Be 4:12
303 Hells Bells 5:13
304 Highway to Hell 3:31
305 Let there be Rock 5:59
306 Rock and Roll Train 4:18
307 Thunderstruck 4:51
308 TNT 3:33
309 War Machine 3:07
310 Rosie 5:19
311 Shook me All Night 3:20

AC/DC Pro

178 Back in Black 4:09
182 For those about to Rock 5:43
186 Hell ain't a bad Place to Be 4:12
190 Hells Bells 5:14
194 Highway to Hell 3:31
198 Let there be Rock 5:59
202 Rock and Roll Train 4:18
206 Thunderstruck 4:51
210 TNT 3:33
214 War Machine 3:07
218 Rosie 5:19
222 Shook me All Night 3:30

Metallica LE

340 Battery 5:09
434 Creeping Death 6:34
497 Enter Sandman 5:30
569 Fade to Black 6:56
622 For Whom the Bell Tolls 5:09
660 Fuel 4:29
720 Master of Puppets 8:32
788 One 7:24
839 Sad but True 5:23
909 Seek and Destroy 6:50
988 The End of the Line 7:51
1053 The Unforgiven 6:26

Like Luvthatapex2 stated, the songs numbers that I listed are the ones that you need to change.
They are the control songs that all the other call outs come from.
It took me some time to figure out Metallica as it is a bit more complicated than AC/DC.
But I did a new Bin file for someone and replaced Unforgiven with Ride the Lightning.
It worked perfectly.

You can just replace 340 and enjoy.
No need to do 362 and 363.
This had me confused for awhile as well and is why I posted the list for others to use.
It works.

Nice. I had no idea this could be done, and I'm pretty good with this program.
This will be much easier then my pieces of paper I have scattered everywhere. lol

Quick bump for the most fun and useful thread on Pinside.
Still can't believe a thread with this much awesome info never got stickied.

That would probably be a good idea.
I'm sure Star Trek will go through many quick code updates and each one will erase any work you have done. Plus Stern always moves the music tracks on each code update and you have to search them all out again every time.

As always. Amazing work.
Watching the DMD in the VGA mode was kind of like watching a video game of Doom.
Thanks for the update.

Dont worry. For some reason, even though this is the best thread on Pinside it gets ignored by most people. Your videos are awesome and I would comment but I have not played either one of those games enough to be able to tell what is new and what is stock.

Wow. Another great update.
iPad is not loading photos. Will have to check them out on the computer later.

The file is too large for an email.
I'm not suggesting the sharing of files but if you had a large file to share with someone a website like Dropbox would be a great start

Your welcome.

You just need to replace the longest version of the song. It will automatically do the shorter clips for you.

Well, now the cat is really out of the bag.
I can't imagine Lyman would care, but if anyone could put the brakes on this, it would be him.
hopefully he enjoyed it.

That part is kind of just the luck of the draw.
I have done many many different song swaps and here is the problem.
Stern has set the length of the looping clip to an exact time for the original song. So you would have to locate the exact request loop for that song and then hope that you could find a section of your song that sounds great with the same amount of time. This is not adjustable. I suppose you could make it sound a bit better, but it will require a lot of tedious work.
These are the songs I used. The short loops are not 100% perfect, but they do not really bother me, and the 30 or so people I have helped have never complained about the 10 second song loops.

War Machine = Girls got Rhythm or Who Made Who.
Let There be Rock = Shoot To Thrill
Hell ain't a bad place = Dirty Deeds
Encore tune = Long way to the Top

I agree 100% with Underspin. Compression is king as far as volume levels on the pin.
All of the files I do are compressed and very few have the gain raised any. It will usually start clipping on the highs when you mess with the gain.

I wanted to save everyone as much time as possible.
Glad you could put it to good use.

Ouch!
I knew someday that would happen.
Hopefully he is so busy with other things that this will fade away from his memory.

Awesome project and I will be donating for the new version.

Donation made. Thanks for this awesome program.

For those who are going to use the new AC/DC file with the new 1.68 code, all the songs have been bumped up one number in the browser.
So instead of the studio songs being 300-311 they are now 301-312.
The live songs have been bumped up two spots for the most part. A couple of exceptions but easy to figure out.

I can get them, but all you have to do is search the song title in the top search box that you want to replace. You will want to replace the first 3 that appear in the list. The ones below that are just Album and tour titles that really should not be changed. If I remember I will make a list tonight.

I am not at home so I don't have the exact spot for this, but yes, it is possible.
I just changed out the entire Let there be Rock Song for Shoot to Thrill and it automatically now plays Shoot to Thrill at the end of all my games.
But it should be possible to just hunt for that small clip and just change it.
The problem with that is guessing which short clip is used for that call at the end of the game as there are several in the code. Then you would have to load each try on your machine, (a 45 min. process) and see if you got it right.
Maybe someone has already done that, but I have not.

I was afraid that may be the case. I never really had a reason to try that before.
Thanks for doing that and saving everyone a lot of headaches in the future.

I have no idea. But would imagine it would be a nightmare.

Got a question for all you Metallica owners.
After you changed out a song, does the machine go silent for a few seconds after a ball drain?
I am helping a friend with his machine and he says that music quits playing after the ball drains for a little while before the bonus starts counting.
I was just wondering if anyone else had encountered this or knew of a fix.
Or is this just the way Metallica works?

Thanks for the suggestion. I will have him try it out.

Yes. You are limited to the time of the original song.
And all songs are replaceable just like you said. No cable is needed. Just a thumb drive to plug into the pinball machine to update the saftware.

Might be interested? lol.
Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie.

I am helping someone with a sound file for AC/DC, and while I have done tons of song changes I have a very strange problem with one of the songs on this file.
For some reason the song plays perfectly in Pinball Browser. But once installed on the pin this one song decides to start almost 1 min. into the song instead of at the beginning.
Anyone have any ideas what might be causing this?
I have double checked the .wav file and re-imported it back into the browser program twice but no luck it still refuses to start at the beginning of the song once installed on the pin.

Thanks.
This is easy info.
I have replaced this song track tons of times with no trouble ever.
It is for AC/DC premium 1.68
The call reference is number 304 which is Hell's Bells. The track length is 5:13 and the edited song (Van Halen's Loss of Control) is 5:13.
The file plays perfectly in Pinball Browser and only plays incorrectly when loaded onto the pin.
I am making an all Van Halen pin for a friend of mine and only this one track refuses to play nice.

Good idea on the request 190. I will check it out.
Hell's Bells must be the only song that does this.
I guess I have not noticed this problem because everyone I have helped with their file has always left Hell's Bells alone because it is a classic.
Very strange. But at least this gives me a lead on where to look to try and fix the problem.

I appreciate the help on this Doug.
I should be able to fix it with this info.
I have done tons of song changes and everything is always peachy. But I guess no one messes with Hell's Bells much because it is such an important song to the game. Really no reason to change it unless you are doing a complete band change out.

Went through last night and labeled every sound call out for Metallica LE 1-63
I'm sure the sound request for the pro are probably pretty close to where these are if you need to find a sound quickly. Just download the LE 1-63 bin file and sync the request.
This game is full of awesome quotes that are not even used, but could be.
Enjoy.

I only did the vocal quotes. Sorry.
I don't own a Metallica to know what the spinner sounds like.
I was just changing out some questionable vocal ques to better suit some younger family members.
But the good news is that, if I did not label it, it will be band music.

A box of cookies to the first person who can swap out Hell's bells for another song and explain how they got it to start at the beginning of the song.
I am on failed attempt 10 and throwing in the towel on this one.

yes there is a setting in the menu to cancel out most of the cursing.
However the person I was doing the file for did not even want the "Hell Yea's" "Damn Right" and the "Nice Freakin shot" call outs.
So I changed them to other call outs in the code like , "Yes", "Amazing", and "Nice Job".

Sadly I have already tried that.

Yes. I have faded the song out and started it over in every logical spot I can think of but it never helps.

Thanks. Hopefully together we can figure this insanity out. Lol

Installing now.
I have in the past made sure that 0x 180 is playing from the beginning of the song as well, and the game would still start further in the song. This is what confuses me.
So we shall see what happens with your file.
I will make a short video of what it does for you.
Leon.