Thanks for this info, I'll look into it

Just for clarity: I'm trying the macro from the repository on the same ROM as what the macro was designed for, hence why I'm rather puzzled (there are hundreds of memory out error, I can't believe the author intended it that way).

is the download link dead for anyone else?

https://www.isitdownrightnow.com/

Works on my home verizon, my work verizon, my work comcast and my work's back up AT&T circuit.

Nailed it 100%

Dupe.

Fact check:

Apple market cap is 500 billion (billion with a "B" junior) higher than Microsoft's. I know a lot of you fanbois still think it's the 90's and you haven't adjusted to the new reality. The Mac's market share continues to grow, as Windows becomes the stagnant old man of tech. Ignoring that base is not wise. Having Macs in an enterprise environment, once relegated to marketing departments, is no longer an issue. Younger CEOs insist on using a Mac now. I watched this change within more than one large company of the last few years. If you had told me this 20 years ago, I would have laughed. The schools are even more predominately Apple than they even have been at any point in the past. Kids that grow up using iPads will buy Macs later in life. Nothing is going to save Windows at this point. They are too stuck in the traditional Wintel desktop model, which is slowly dying. Their future heavily rests on their cloud services, which are becoming less and less reliant on Windows. That does not bode well for the continued high market share of Windows.

Development tools aren't what they used to be in the 90's either. Cross platform development is relatively easy, especially with tools like Xojo, which can have one code base and spit out native binaries for Mac, Linux, and Windows.

To sum it up, it's not 1997 anymore, Virginia. It's more than fair for customers to ask about Mac native versions. They may not get it, but it's not absurd to ask.

It’s absurd to keep asking when you’ve been told no repeatedly from the only person in the entire known universe that currently works on the software.

Badgering the creator because you can isn’t acceptable behavior and you should stop.

This x100. If enough people want a native apple version, find someone else to do it.

Good lord chill out. Nobody is badgering Ollie. It’s asked occasionally, likely by people newer to the thread who haven’t read the entire thing and don’t know. Then people who aren’t Ollie have to chime in with how stupid it is to even ask and it starts an argument. If the answer was from Ollie and it was “sorry, not my jam” it would likely invoke an “oh well, maybe someday” or no response at all, but instead here we are.

—Donnie

I’ve only used Macs my entire life, and the program runs just fine using Crossover. I don’t have to look at any crappy Windows User Interface and all is good.

I love an old school Win v Mac pissing contest

Oh we never even got started down THAT road, pal! lol.

Seriously, it's fine. I think the biggest part of the problem is that we live in a world where all this exists in a never ending single thread. Some folks are all-in and been here since the beginning, and many people come and go. There's natural conflict between those two worlds. There's no real FAQ to point people to or anything because Ollie is so good about just answering almost everything right here.

There are plenty of good things about the never-ending-thread model, but there are some downsides, too. *shrug*

--Donnie

Key posts help sort it out. You can find them linked at the top of every page in every thread that has key posts.

If you see a post that should be a key post, ask. And key posts get outdated sometimes so mention it if you see one that isn’t relevant anymore.

Solution (in most cases): Run Windows emulator on MAC (oddly enough, virtually nobody every wants/needs to run a Mac emulator on Windows).

Coincidentally, I've never met a Microsoft/Windows fanboy, but rarely do I meet a Mac owner who isn't. I don't really understand the psychological devotion to a corporation/product, but I get the sense that it comes from either a feeling of elitism, living vicariously, or an inferiority complex (not sure which).

Sorry, I was just going by the last 4 quarter's market share numbers (it may not be the 90's anymore, but it is still 2020). If you develop on mobile, then iOS is definitely the platform to do it on, albeit Android would have a good argument. Actually, in FY 2019 Apple's Mac sales only generated 9.8% of their total revenue.

Additionally, if you research desktop market share, Windows is 73.2% with OS X a distant second at 16.5% over the last 12 months. Bottom line is that Microsoft still dominates the professional business world outside of specific verticals.

To your cloud point, Microsoft is one of the leaders in that space. Besides their Azure platform having 19% market share (2nd behind AWS at 32%), Office 365 holds it's own with about 40% market share verses Google's 59%.

This isn't a conversation about which is better or blindly sticking Apple/Windows decals on everything you own. Rather, it's about the current state of reality in the desktop OS world (of course, mobile is a completely different conversation). Until this changes with a competitive OS or a future one to come, the dominate desktop development will continue to be on the Windows platform (just ask the various Linux flavors about that reality - they were supposed to take over the desktop market 15-20 years ago, if you recall). Cloud processing may take over the desktop one day in the future, but currently we are nowhere close to having equivalent performance using that technology versus local processing, mostly due to the bandwidth bottleneck.

BTW, glad to know you aspire to be a professional futurist (I actually know people in that business), but my advice would be to not make the career change just yet.

Help!
I paid to use Pinbrowser a while back and didn’t do much with it. Today I actually cropped some music and went to import and it told me to click on License and when I do and try to Register it says No License Found!

Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks oga!

1. I’ve only had one computer
2. I’ve only used one version
See attached token
3. I paid you on Aug 13th so maybe that will help you see what account I am.

Also, the email in the pic is now defunct - don’t know if that matters.

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Is PB free or a cost? Where do you find it? What else can you do with it other than massage high scores?

Go read the very first post in this thread.

—Donnie

Thanks for the hook up. PB accepted my license!

I'm trying to update the music for the first time on a stern kiss on code 1.41, and I'm getting an "unpack failed" error, once the update looks like it's about ready to finish. I've tried "quick", and "Full". Same result. Any suggestions? I saw on page 77 or so that someone said you shouldn't use the spk. Is this my issue. Do I need to use the full iso image and create a totally new as card? And are there any videos on this process using the full sd card image and not just the spk?

Good morning,

I've been trying to use Pinball Browser to run colorization macros on a Star Trek ROM, and it's driving me crazy: even using the stock ROM for which the macro has been designed for (1.61), so no deviation from the original ROM used by the owner of the colorization, I get loads of "out of memory" error, to the point where I can't even finish the macros operation since I literally have hundreds of them, and I have to click on "Continue" every single time.

I can't imagine this is what the original developer of the mod intended. Anyone would have his contact information ?

he is right here in the thread

.spk files have been deprecated. It was sometime after v7.00.

as cards will not work in Stern machines. You’ll need an SD card.

He literally posted 3 posts above yours - oga83

Ah good point, no I did not as I was not aware of this capability. Will try right away

(Edit) just tested, it does indeed allow to go further, but it still fails with an out of memory error later on

oga83 Stern's new release of Stanger Things 1.01 has broken the ability to open in PB again. I hate that they do this to you. Hope you will update soon, this game has to be close to done.....and I am done with Stern too. They can suck it, and sell less games due to no personal customization options.

Coult not open TMNT 1.4 "uknown firmware" but i guess it's what we expected
Too bad for all the trouble.

See post directly above yours.

the last edibal version is 1.23 code
they changed the way they create their links, but this link seems to be still working:
https://f002.backblazeb2.com/file/gamecode/turtles_le-1_23_0.Release.8G.sdcard.raw.zip

the le code is also for premium.

Avengers Infinity Quest 0.95, Star Wars 1.10 and Iron Maiden 1.08 can't be opened with PB v7.63 either.

Damn - i was all set to update my code for TMNT and maybe do a little with avengers.....now it’s wait and see which will prob put me back into work crazy mode haha.

Here we go. The new Stern Code Agreement.
Looks like they are really cracking down and we wont be able to connect any non Stern Code games to their internet update system.

LICENSE. Stern Pinball hereby grants You a nonexclusive, non-transferable, limited, and revocable right and license to use one copy of the Stern Pinball Software and Authorized Content and any Authorized Update solely for your personal use, or that of your patrons and customers if you are a commercial entity, for playing a single Stern Pinball Machine. The Stern Pinball Software, Authorized Content and Authorized Updates are licensed, not sold, to You, and no ownership rights are transferred by this Agreement. The Stern Pinball Software Authorized Content and Authorized Updates are protected by U.S. and international copyright. All rights not explicitly granted to you in this Agreement are reserved by Stern Pinball.
As a condition to this Stern Pinball Software license, You agree that:
You will not copy, reproduce, alter, replace, distribute, reverse engineer, decompile, disassemble, display, perform, create derivative works based on, or otherwise modify the Stern Pinball hardware or Stern Pinball Software or any Authorized Update, in whole or in part; and will not commercially exploit any of the foregoing.
You will not use or install any Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software. Use of Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software may result in your Stern Pinball Machine ceasing to work permanently and/or losing access to Stern Pinball’s online game network, either immediately or after a later installed Authorized Update.
You will not create, develop, distribute or assist anyone else in creating, developing or distributing any Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software intended for use with a Stern Pinball Machine, whether to add to or modify the gameplay, any audio content (whether music, sound or voice), or any video content of any Stern Pinball Machine, or to gain advantage in any online or other game modes, or otherwise.
You will not share any Stern Pinball Software, Authorized Content or Authorized Update with any other person or company and will not permit anyone else to access or copy any Stern Pinball Software or Authorized Content or Authorized Update installed on your Machine for any purpose.
In view of the rights held by third-party owners of Authorized Content (e.g. music and video clips) You will not stream your gameplay of your Stern Pinball Machine without Stern Pinball’s prior consent.
You will not attempt to defeat or circumvent any anti-piracy, security, and/or technical measures to control access to the Stern Pinball Software, features, functions or content, prevent unauthorized use, or otherwise prevent anyone from exceeding the limited license rights granted under this Agreement, “Security Measures”. Attempting to defeat or circumvent any Security Measure may result in your Stern Pinball Machine ceasing to work permanently either immediately or after a later installed Authorized Update.
Stern Pinball may update the Stern Pinball Software from time to time without further notice to You, for example, to update any anti-piracy, security, and technical measure.

This is a big statement here, since I know folks like to stream gameplay and such. Huh.

can't say I'm surprised although when I downloaded the code this morning that EULA wasn't there! The only thing that surprises me is that this is taken them so long.

Not sure they will have much luck retrospectively applying this but for future games or features beyond the original game specification then we won't have much of a choice but to agree to it. It's a bit of shame really, the mod world in software has contributed billions to the video gaming industry.

and apparently we can't stream any more?!

In view of the rights held by third-party owners of Authorized Content (e.g. music and video clips) You will not stream your gameplay of your Stern Pinball Machine without Stern Pinball’s prior consent.

when did this happen?
i downloaded tmnt today withouth the license agreement poping up. Now it is
Yes this seems to be regulating a lot and will have impact on streaming and i guess pinball browser too.
It will make everything so much complicated.

i hope they will rethink their agreement. But i guess this is the way it will go

IANAL, but based on what I do know about fair use doctrine I don't believe any of what that says is enforceable. They can't stop anyone from creating tools that edit their work, and they can't stop the end user from doing it for themselves. Sure, it's probably a bad idea to edit their work and then sell the machine to someone else without putting their code back in unedited form. And it's DEFINITELY not cool to edit their work and share your edits of their work with their work in it. Can you share a macro that edits their work but doesn't include any of their work? Yes, I believe that would fall under fair use, just like they can't and won't be able to stop Ollie from updating Pinball Browser and selling it.

This would be directly analogous to the music industry trying to say you can't create your own mixtape for your own use of music you legally purchased. *shrug*

--Donnie

I feel like Stern is putting this out to cover themselves from any liability,
If SoNy or any companies blames them of using music or video not included with the software.

But when you spend 6k to 10k for a machine and you can't Stream or take pictures without Sterns approval?
That will kill sales, and consumers will wake up.

Think... you buy a car from Honda and you can't take pictures, video or add anything to the car you paid for.
Unless you have proof from Honda that you can.

Sounds like Stern is going to start a plan for you to buy licenses to stream the machines that you paid for.

Just food for thought-

It’s also worth nothing this little gem in there:

“You will not use or install any Unauthorized Content or Unauthorized Software.”

That, in and of itself, would preclude many, if not all, playfield mods. It definitely seems to preclude any playfield mods that play their own content or require their own software (so the Tron minicab, anything done with Pinduino, the TV for TZ, etc). If it were, indeed, enforceable. I dunno, the more I think about what they are trying to do here in both what they want as well as the potential unintended consequences, the more I don’t like it.

If I thought this was all CYA legalese then I wouldn’t much care, but they seem to be trying already to enforce these things, both by encrypting firmware as well as the part they added about how trying to use edited software may INTENTIONALLY brick your pinball machine. This looks to be the end of my willingness to buy a Stern pinball machine.

—Donnie

Testing today the EULA does not pop up anymore? did they remove it again?
maybe a testrun for the near future?

did download the turtles 1.41 spk and tried with sd-card images and different browsers. It did not pop up again.

It is currently removed, yes. It doesn't even appear in downloaded firmware, README, or anything I could find. But it definitely *did* exist.

--Donnie

Yes thank you for the confirmation was not sure if it is now removed again. It apeared as strange as it vanished again.
in the Morning i downloaded a game version nothing, then in the afternoon i got an empty page, when i changed the browser the Eula Poped up.
Now today nothing again. So let's see were this journey is going for the future.