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AC/DC being re-run?

By vireland

3 years ago

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#1 3 years ago

I had heard that the license was re-upped on this and they'll be running more. Anyone else heard the same?

#3 3 years ago

"Yes, yes, yes" as in "awesome" or as in you heard the same as well?

#5 3 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

Possible license is reacquired, but there's no way they re-run it whilst they have Metallica, KISS and Aerosmith on their books still.
One or two of those will need to drop off, especially with another rock / metal 'cornerstone' release no doubt pencilled in for January '18.

KISS has already effectively dropped off. Plenty of stock out there in warehouses and homes that isn't moving due to molasses code releases.

#7 3 years ago
Quoted from TigerLaw:

Didn't the Met license run out at end of 16? Or was it extended?

Picked up again/continued.

#11 3 years ago

Frosty the buzzkill.

But thanks for the info. That's exactly why I made the post. To confirm/deny what I had heard.

#54 3 years ago
Quoted from Khabbi:

I think when taking prices into account, you have to look at the current selling price of Premiums ($7K) and also account for the price of a rare/highly desirable machine (Tron, AC/DC).
Anything under $7K for a mint HUO machine would be an incredible deal right now IMO.

A few Premiums have changed hands in the mid/high 6's recently. Most started in the low 7's, but the market pushed it a bit lower.

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#55 3 years ago

Looks like AC/DC is probably being re-run or vaulted soon, based on last Friday's Stern tour comment. Hopefully they fix the LED insert timings. XMEN and AC/DC are seizure-inducing to look at because they don't work well with the LEDs, being Stern's first attempt at it.

#58 3 years ago
Quoted from Spg101:

What did they say to lead you to believe they are doing a rerun last Friday?

Around the 13:00 minute mark of the factory floor video last Friday someone asked "Are you going to do a new AC/DC ? machine" to which Jody replied by repeating the question, then giving an interesting answer: "Are you going to do a NEW AC/DC pinball machine? Biffen (the guy's name)...What if we did the old AC/DC pinball machine...just kept making it, would that be cool? We don't need a whole brand new one, though, do we?"

Seems like a strong indicator that the sustained, high pricing on AC/DC Premiums brought Stern back to the licensing table and they may have already completed a deal to make more.

#59 3 years ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

Seizure inducing?
You're kidding. Right?
I'll be curious to see how cheap these new run games feel... Stern's choice of materials are so stripped down at this point

Not kidding. The LED attack and decay is too abrupt, so instead of a incandescent-like strobing on the inserts, you get harsh blinking, unlike the later LED efforts. It's an easy fix. I hope they do it.

#65 3 years ago
Quoted from MikeS:

Can't you just install an LED-OCD board or are they surface mount LED's?

The LED OCD guy says no-go on AC/DC or X-MEN, which is why I even mentioned this. If Stern can tweak it before re-running, we won't need an LED-OCD for it.

#67 3 years ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

With all due respect... this is an example of a "problem" that needs no solution... because it's not a problem... same goes for the notion of Stern putting an LCD in a re-run.
I could care less if they do... but to what end? The game is already proven as super fun, as is. That's years of proof. Changes (and the sure to be mega up-charges) by Stern would create buzz, but the overall game experience would be the same.
Something doesn't smell right here.

I'm not interested in changing the playfield art or adding an LCD or anything. I think that's pie-in-the-sky dreaming. The re-run will be fine as-is (since I think LED-OCD will eventually made to work with it), but if Stern made the fix to LED timing themselves so the lighting is more strobe-like and less blinky, that would be awesome.

#70 3 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

The Stern LEDs can be turned on and off as fast or as slow as the programmer wants to. No need for LED-OCD. I never had a problem with the LEDs on ACDC and I am sensitive to harsh LEDs. I have used my share of LED-OCD boards in the old WMS games.

I have no idea what level of granularity the hardware allows the software, but that's why I said it would be nice if they fixed it (either with a hardware revision or more options in software) for the re-run. IMO, X-MEN and AC/DC are the worst offenders in the Stern LCD age, and I chalk that up to being the first efforts. I know they can do better, I just hope they take the re-run opportunity to do that.

#73 3 years ago
Quoted from Khabbi:

Jody has no authority to tell anyone what is or is not going to be vaulted.. his response is canned just like every other question of "will XXX be re-released or vaulted"? Drawing a conclusion from his statement alone is purely speculative, just like every other rumor of Vaults.

The timing of this comment on their official page was just interesting because I had heard a re-run was coming (when this thread started), but back then it was supposed to be impossible.

We'll see...

#76 3 years ago
Quoted from Delta9:

If they do make a vault acdc it will be spike theirs a lot of light mods that wont work with spike

Mmm...don't think so. I can see them doing that for a LotR vault as a one time thing, but I don't see them taking the time and trouble to fix something like AC/DC that's already pretty great.

#84 3 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

Let me just say this...I HATE people that buy machines just because they think the value will go up, then bitch and moan (and price pump) when it doesn't. This is a hobby...not an investment opportunity. There are quite a few on this site that are like that...can't stand that s**t.
(In fact, I think I'll cross-post this on the "things you hate" thread!)

Forget hating the behavior, I wonder why people even DO that. It seems like for every one you guess "right" you'll have at least 3 or 4 disappointments. Pinball is supposed to be fun.

#86 3 years ago
Quoted from Mike_J:

Pinball was fun at 3K-5K.
At 7-15K, it becomes more of an investment/commodity to many.

It's more like $7-9k, really. Stern has destroyed the $15k tier with their first poorly-handled, ongoing trainwreck. But pinball is generally a bad investment vehicle. Too many ways to lost money. So, just buy what you think you will like and just enjoy the machines. If you don't, sell it within the first month or two and you won't get hurt too badly.

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#87 3 years ago

Looks like Frostymug was wrong and what I heard 4 months ago was right. AC/DC re-run is coming.

That said, looks like Frostymug checked out of Pinside. He was having health issues. I hope he's all right.

#92 3 years ago
Quoted from limelime20:

Let's nip this in the bud now, per George Gomez and Gary Stern, AC/DC will never be re-run.
So keep talking about it if you want to, but until you interview Gomez, your just spinning your wheels.

You mean the Gomez who promised Batman '66 code every two weeks "until we getcha there", which never happened, even once. Most code drops have been in the 4-5 week range. Yeah, I'll stick with the pretty pervasive and specific rumors from people that usually know these things that more AC/DC is coming.

#98 3 years ago
Quoted from limelime20:

Let's nip this in the bud now, per George Gomez and Gary Stern, AC/DC will never be re-run.
So keep talking about it if you want to, but until you interview Gomez, your just spinning your wheels.

Boom! You were saying?

When will people finally realize Gomez truth/reality ratio is near zero these days? You can't believe a word he says.

This is the Pro. Interested to see what the Premium looks like...

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#101 3 years ago
Quoted from BoJo:

He does own AC/DC

I was referring to his comical, child-like belief in Gomez's denial AC/DC was being re-run when I and others had heard it was coming back for months.

Quoted from limelime20:

Let's nip this in the bud now, per George Gomez and Gary Stern, AC/DC will never be re-run.
So keep talking about it if you want to, but until you interview Gomez, your just spinning your wheels.

The timing of an official announcement coming only one day after this strenuous-denial post was hilarious.

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#104 3 years ago
Quoted from BoJo:

I know and was just pointing out owners wanted to believe that. Everybody wants what others cannot have.

Ah, I see your point now. It was crazy to deny because many people had heard it from reputable places, Jody had stealth confirmed it last month on Stern video, and people "in the know" started dumping NIB machines. Strong signs all over the place.

#107 3 years ago
Quoted from Madmax541:

Has stern resolved issues with cabinet and PF?
What are the issues with PF?

Cabinet is a newer issue that's come to light around the late Ghostbusters and forward. Probably not addressed yet.

Playfield seem to be good now. Aerosmith are very nice with no ghosting or chipping I've seen personally on a Prem or heard about from others with it.

#110 3 years ago
Quoted from smassa:

cabinet issues have been addressed.

Really? What have you heard? I'm hoping they went back to better cabinet wood than the crap they used for Aerosmith.

#113 3 years ago
Quoted from smassa:

The separating has nothing to do with the wood. Its the same wood thats been used for a while now.

The cabinet wood HAS been used for a while, but it's much crappier and softer than pins from before late 2015/early 2016. There will be more problems if they don't dial back to the wood from the rev before.

So, how did they address the separating problem currently?

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#118 3 years ago
Quoted from Khabbi:

But here we go, I hear that "insert title here" is going to be remade with no real proof. This also goes for PPS and whether they are remaking AFM, CC, MB, and so on. Its just gotten old.

Plenty of proof 5 months ago. I trust the sources. But I wouldn't have shared them then or now.

And, it's only old when it's wrong.

Looking forward to seeing what they do with the Premium...

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