there's a circuit change at game serial number 1640. What serial number is your game?
the change only affects 5-in-line wins.
the most likely problem is dirty/misadjusted switches on search relay 2 or 4.
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Quoted from eduatkinson29:Hello,
I could see in the schematic, that there is a superline relay where the 4 and 5 in line payment must past to pay correctly, and if i press(Force) the relay manually, the payment is correct. But this relay doesn't close when there is a 4 or 5 in line. The relay is ok, i checked it.
the super-line relay only powers when the search wipers are checking the line the lit arrow is pointing to when the super-line (super-score) feature is enabled.
if you manually hold the super line relay closed, it will close the circuit to the make the win detect as +1 what it really is. For example, a 3-in-line will activate the 4-in-line win circuits.
a 4/5-in-line win will also power the lesser win circuits. For example, a 5-in-line win also powers the 4-in-line and 3-in-line win circuits.
in the below schematic, highlighted in yellow is a standard 4-in-line win on a red line.
highlighted in green is the same win powering the 3-in-line circuit.
if you close the super-line relay, you close the switch on the purple highlight, so you connect wire 65 to 71-3 and it pays 4-in-line.
your problem is one or more of:
1] super line relay A switch is not connecting 74-7 to 71-3 when the super-line relay is unpowered
2] one of the switches between 74-7 and 50-3 isn't working
since 4-in-line and 5-in-line aren't working, the switches on search relays 2 and 4 in the yellow path are a single point of failure for both wins and are the most likely problem.
you can inspect all the switches, use a jumper wire or a voltmeter to find the problem. Which do you want to do?
a good way to test is:
1] reset game, shoot balls and put them in holes to create a 4-in-line win in holes B-C-D-E (top row, right 4 numbers - manual page 13)
2] manually step up the timer unit all the way. The motors should turn off
3] stick a piece of paper under wiper B on the red score unit so the 3-in-line circuit is disabled (wire 81-8 is disconnected from rivets - manual page 4)
4] manually release and spin the search wipers clockwise to position 49 (manual page 14 ... it's one rivet clockwise from the 12:00 position)
5] verify search relays 2, 3, 4 and 5 are powered
at this point, the 4-in-line win detect circuit should be active and the search index unit should power. If it's not, I usually use a voltmeter with a probe on wire 70 and the other probe anywhere along the yellow highlight path to see where the 50V drops a lot lower.
if you want to use a jumper, put one end on wire 50-3 on search relay #3 and the other end along the yellow highlight path. When the search index unit powers, the circuit is good from that point down on the schematic.
I hope the above is understandable ... please ask about what is not clear.
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