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Absolute max $2,500 best game for newbie?

By MT45

6 months ago


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#101 6 months ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

I wouldn't recommend ANY pin in the $2500 range to a new buyer/owner. Too many variables to figure out.

That’s not bad advice. May be worth trying to save an additional $2000 to get to $4500. A lot more reliable options at that price point.

#102 6 months ago
Quoted from Palmer:

LAH is a great game but it is getting harder to find one at 2500. Seems like everyone now wants 3K or higher.
To the OP, you have been on Pinside for 9 years, own 41 games and write a pinball blog. I think you are completely qualified to suggest a game for your friend. Or even better, sell your LAH to him for 2500 with the stipulation you can buy it back for the same price later on. This way he has a nice starter game and you can get it back.

or just rent him 1 machine for 3 months and if he still plays it sell it to him.Or find Him 1 like it.

#103 6 months ago
Quoted from Jamesays:

or just rent him 1 machine for 3 months and if he still plays it sell it to him.Or find Him 1 like it.

Yes lots of options!

#104 6 months ago

I know the Times have really changed!

Quoted from CrazyLevi:

This is the $2500 sweet spot these days!
What’s the world coming to?!

#105 6 months ago

Any early Bally SS. Easy to play and fix.

#106 6 months ago
Quoted from jgelman:

You have an amazing 41 games in your collection. Such a personal decision as to what someone values in a pinball machine. Which of your 41 games does your friend like? Some of your games sell on average for less than $2,500.

Wait a second. OP has 41 machines and wants our advice on a $2,500 game cap that's fun, but not an EM. Seems like OP would already know the answer to this.

#107 6 months ago

You could sell any of these and help out a friend when something breaks.

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#108 6 months ago

Haven’t read any other posts yet, but I have to chime in and say Lethal Weapon 3.

Obvious choice. It’s really a no brainer.

No matter how cheap or tempting they may be, do NOT have your first pin be a Gottlieb EM.

#109 6 months ago
Quoted from jgelman:

You have an amazing 41 games in your collection. Such a personal decision as to what someone values in a pinball machine. Which of your 41 games does your friend like? Some of your games sell on average for less than $2,500.

He enjoyed Metallica but wasn't ready to part with money to get one - honestly (at least now) he's not a "pinball guy". He's just looking to add a game to his mancave so the grandkids and he can play together ... we all know that can lead to a lifetime of collecting but for now, just the one game and under $2,500

Great suggestions all and you've really nailed what I've sensed has happened. The new $2,500 games list is shorter that it used to be

To all of you that suggested I "answer my own question" or that I have some secret agenda. I actually wanted and respect your opinions (that's why I posted the question) AND, I have no other agenda. Just interested in what you think and why.

#110 6 months ago
#111 6 months ago
Quoted from MT45:

He enjoyed Metallica but wasn't ready to part with money to get one - honestly (at least now) he's not a "pinball guy". He's just looking to add a game to his mancave so the grandkids and he can play together ... we all know that can lead to a lifetime of collecting but for now, just the one game and under $2,500
Great suggestions all and you've really nailed what I've sensed has happened. The new $2,500 games list is shorter that it used to be
To all of you that suggested I "answer my own question" or that I have some secret agenda. I actually wanted and respect your opinions (that's why I posted the question) AND, I have no other agenda. Just interested in what you think and why.

If I was in your shoes, I would let them play all my games and let them pick which one they wanted in the 2500 range.

#112 6 months ago
Quoted from RyanStl:

Wait a second. OP has 41 machines and wants our advice on a $2,500 game cap that's fun, but not an EM. Seems like OP would already know the answer to this.

Fishing expedition...

#113 6 months ago
Quoted from LORDDREK:

Fishing expedition...

Yes, we all have friends (not ourselves that have been in the hobby for awhile) that are looking for $2500 or less games.

#114 6 months ago

Mods, can one of you please move this thread to the "Buying and selling advice" sub-forum?

#115 6 months ago
Quoted from MT45:

I actually wanted and respect your opinions

Nobody respects anyone's opinions in this hobby! You know that

You have about 6 games you could sell him (or rent) for this price range and not miss yourself since you have about 20 A+ titles.
Be a true friend to your friend.

#116 6 months ago

Sharkey's shootout is a fun game in the price range.

#117 6 months ago
Quoted from LORDDREK:

Fishing expedition...

I'll repeat for the disbelievers ... No.
I'm not fishing, shopping, trying to steal your identity, sell you a time share or anything other than asking a simple question

IF I was asking about a game for my own collection I would have asked THAT question, not cloak it in a "buddy" statement

Thanks to all the folks that responded to the question, I really do appreciate it

#119 6 months ago
Quoted from Isochronic_Frost:

Yeah if someone wants to sell me a JM or No Fear for under 4K please message me
Prices are ridiculous and it’s tough. Every Mousin’ I’ve seen lately is north of 2.5

Recently sold a really nice unfaded NF for $3250. I was on the market for some time and people would ask a lot. Guys calls me and I said "just come look at it and decide" - cash was on the glass and game sold. Don't be afraid to go and look at games as you'll never know what you find.

#120 6 months ago

I would go with a DMD with an easy to achieve multiball. Some system 3 Gottliebs would fit this bill like the Wipeout you have. Data East has some good DMD games in that price. It’s been mentioned before but Lethal Weapon 3 is an absolute blast to play, very approachable rules but actually has multiple scoring strategies that can lead to some big exciting games. All uzi awards and stunt scenes are active and can stack along with multiball and the multiball has some pretty good risk reward rules like changing the jackpot to a double or trying to shoot it quickly twice to get to a quadruple after you lite the double.

Stern Striker Xtreme is probably the newest game that you can get in that price range. It has easy to understand rules and an easy to achieve multiball, most people hate the theme though.

Maybe ask him if theme or gameplay is more important, plenty of games with junk themes that play well and plenty of games with great themes that play like junk, usually if it’s a great theme and a great playing game it’s going to be out of his price range.

#121 6 months ago

I just knocked the dust off my F-14 pin, hadn't been powered up in a couple years. Got me to thinking I wanted another pin so I went to Craigslist and FB Marketplace. All I saw local was "Will buy your working or not working pinball machine" type ads.

Guess a cheap second pin is not going to happen.

#122 6 months ago

My advise would be to have him make a list of games that typically sell for $3,000 - $4,000. My list would include games like Baywatch, Last Action Hero, Demolition Man, Stargate, Terminator 2, Black Rose, Black Knight 2000, Johnny Mnemonic, Batman Forever, NBA Fastbreak, Who Dunnit, Jurassic Park, World Cup Soccer, Judge Dredd, The Getaway, Dirty Harry, Tales from the Crypt, Road Show, Doctor Who, Bram Stoker's Dracula, Fish Tales, Road Show, etc. The more games he can add to that list of acceptable games the better his chances. If anything comes up from that list be ready to run out the door with cash in hand.

If he really wants something now, I'd try to track down a Stars, Meteor, or Flash. They are currently the best bang for your buck, IMHO.

#123 6 months ago
Quoted from Mach169:

I just picked up a beautiful F-14 for $2500. They are out there, just keep looking
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holy shit, even a f14 is commanding a $2500 price tag nowadays??? good lord, we're in trouble.

#124 6 months ago
Quoted from chuckwurt:

If I was in your shoes, I would let them play all my games and let them pick which one they wanted in the 2500 range.

Second this. If he's not a "pinball guy", it would be a good idea to acclimate him to what he gets at that price point. He might be happy with what's there or decide that he needs to save more to get what he wants, or just taps out altogether.

#125 6 months ago

You could probably get a Breakshot for about that, or go for earlier SS games in the $1500-$2500 price range (I would recommend Mars God of War). Will a noob appreciate a more simplistic early SS game though? It might get stale quicker for them. Also you own 41 games, do you not have a grasp on the current market?

#126 6 months ago

If I had 41 games, and a friend of mine had expressed the desire to get a pinball machine, I would probably just give him/her one of mine. I wouldn't even take any money for it. What difference would it make to me if I had one less game? Where does anyone even put 40 games? It also seems as if you aren't willing to sell your friend a game. Sad.

#127 6 months ago
Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

If I had 41 games, and a friend of mine had expressed the desire to get a pinball machine, I would probably just give him/her one of mine. I wouldn't even take any money for it. What difference would it make to me if I had one less game? Where does anyone even put 40 games? It also seems as if you aren't willing to sell your friend a game. Sad.

You sound jealous.

#128 6 months ago

High Speed, Pinbot, F-14 Tomcat, Firepower, or Big Game. High Speed might be the least brutal, short ball time of those for a newby.

#129 6 months ago
Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

If I had 41 games, and a friend of mine had expressed the desire to get a pinball machine, I would probably just give him/her one of mine. I wouldn't even take any money for it. What difference would it make to me if I had one less game? Where does anyone even put 40 games?.

I guess the entire fun of these "what's the best game for $X?" threads is spending other people's money, but you've taken it to a new level!

I see you've got two pinball machines yourself though -- the average human has zero and would have no idea where to put even two of them, so maybe you could offer OP's friend one of yours. At no cost, of course, as you're a generous fellow.

#130 6 months ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

I guess the entire fun of these "what's the best game for $X?" threads is spending other people's money, but you've taken it to a new level!
I see you've got two pinball machines yourself though -- the average human has zero and would have no idea where to put even two of them, so maybe you could offer OP's friend one of yours. At no cost, of course, as you're a generous fellow.

Yes, I have two machines. Their value combined would barely reach $2500. I don't think you can equate my two machines to the OP's 41. You are right about one thing, though. I am a generous fellow. If a friend of mine expressed a genuine interest in one of my machines, I would let them have it. They are my friend, and the machine is just a machine. I do not know the OP's friend. I would not give a stranger one of my machines.

#131 6 months ago
Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

Yes, I have two machines. Their value combined would barely reach $2500. I don't think you can equate my two machines to the OP's 41. You are right about one thing, though. I am a generous fellow. If a friend of mine expressed a genuine interest in one of my machines, I would let them have it. They are my friend, and the machine is just a machine. I do not know the OP's friend. I would not give a stranger one of my machines.

Let's be friends! I assure you that I have no ulterior motives!

#132 6 months ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

You sound jealous.

I am jealous but in a good way.Maybe Im lucky I cant fit more games,I would be broke.

#133 6 months ago
Quoted from snakesnsparklers:

Let's be friends! I assure you that I have no ulterior motives!

Me either I'll loan you 2 of mine ebc & ebd please return them fixed and working

#134 6 months ago
Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

Yes, I have two machines. Their value combined would barely reach $2500. I don't think you can equate my two machines to the OP's 41.

Why not? OP is obviously more "pinball rich" than you. But you yourself, with $2500 worth of oversized toys sitting in your house, are likely richer than at least 2/3 of the people on earth. Wealth is relative, and these are only luxury goods, not life necessities.

Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

I am a generous fellow. If a friend of mine expressed a genuine interest in one of my machines, I would let them have it. They are my friend, and the machine is just a machine. I do not know the OP's friend. I would not give a stranger one of my machines.

And good on you. Virtue is its own reward, as they say, and you can take pride in being so generous with your friends. I'm not sure why you'd expect OP to adhere to your specific code of generosity though. And given that you have a "no freebies for strangers" rule, I imagine you've got some cut-off between casual acquaintances (small appliances only), work friends (free Sharpshooter if they express interest in pinball), and the inner sanctum that's Space Shuttle worthy. OP hasn't told us anything about his relationship with the "buddy" in question or whether the buddy is more well-to-do in general than he is. So it's probably premature to imply that he's a stingy bastard for refusing to pony up $2500 worth of hardware to his buddy.

#135 6 months ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

holy shit, even a f14 is commanding a $2500 price tag nowadays??? good lord, we're in trouble.

A friend of mine just sold an F14 for $3.6. Super nice, PF swap. Didn’t take long to sell... buyer paid for it to ship

#136 6 months ago
Quoted from fosaisu:Why not? OP is obviously more "pinball rich" than you. But you yourself, with $2500 worth of oversized toys sitting in your house, are likely richer than at least 2/3 of the people on earth. Wealth is relative, and these are only luxury goods, not life necessities.

Exactly.

Quoted from fosaisu:

And good on you. Virtue is its own reward, as they say, and you can take pride in being so generous with your friends. I'm not sure why you'd expect OP to adhere to your specific code of generosity though. And given that you have a "no freebies for strangers" rule, I imagine you've got some cut-off between casual acquaintances (small appliances only), work friends (free Sharpshooter if they express interest in pinball), and the inner sanctum that's Space Shuttle worthy. OP hasn't told us anything about his relationship with the "buddy" in question or whether the buddy is more well-to-do in general than he is. So it's probably premature to imply that he's a stingy bastard for refusing to pony up $2500 worth of hardware to his buddy.

It is not pride I feel, it is humility. The few I call friends are like family. I am fortunate to have them. I guess I have a different definition of friend than you.

#137 6 months ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

holy shit, even a f14 is commanding a $2500 price tag nowadays??? good lord, we're in trouble.

I might pay that if nice enough. Can't have playfield damage though and has to be working fine.

#138 6 months ago
Quoted from Rapid_Roy:

The few I call friends are like family. I am fortunate to have them. I guess I have a different definition of friend than you.

I thought we were talking “buddies.”

As for friends though, I divide mine into two categories: pool and pond.

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#139 6 months ago
Quoted from smalltownguy2:

You sound jealous.

he is!

#140 6 months ago

Very helpful thread,my local pinball gallery just added a Lethal Weapon 3 to their arcade. I'd like to give it a try,since I never played one before.
Sounds like a game I'd enjoy.
I've also seen a lot of games mentioned in this thread, that I'd like to give a try.

#141 6 months ago
Quoted from pindel:

1 Space Shuttle
2 High Speed
3 Black Knight
4 Firepower
All are 3 ball multi ball
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He said 2500 not 25,000. Your pin prices are insane.

ebay.com link: buythru

#142 6 months ago
Quoted from Brtlkat:

He said 2500 not 25,000. Your pin prices are insane.
ebay.com link: buythru

what could justify these prices I dont get it.

#143 6 months ago
Quoted from ralphs007:

Very helpful thread,my local pinball gallery just added a Lethal Weapon 3 to their arcade.

+1 for Bill and Sherry. They just added that and T2 to the floor; both are playing very nicely!

A bunch of the 90s Gottlieb DMD games can still be had for under 2500. In spite of the all the hate, I still think SF2 is still a fun shooter. Plus System 3 electronics are rock solid for beginners.

#144 6 months ago

They would be hard to find, but Getaway and Baywatch are probably the two best games I've seen around that price. I think Hook is a really good he for newbs. It's really under appreciated and can usually be found pretty cheap compared to others.

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#145 6 months ago

If it is still possible to buy a Baywatch in the United States under 2,500$, go for it, this game is really great when it is well tuned. Here in Europe its rating is starting to soar, it has long been put aside because of its theme but over time players have realized the fluidity of its game and the variety of shots on its very complete field. We can easily recognize the Data East design behind this SEGA game. A must.

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#146 4 months ago

Have agree space shuttle may be your beat option. It's my favorite game.

#147 4 months ago

Get Black Knight and that will wet your whistle for the next 1

#148 4 months ago

As noted you'd have to get pretty lucky to get anything dmd for under 3k these days, that said occasionally can get lucky.

I sold my Popeye in decent shape for 2k awhile back; granted that was before prices spiked even further. I had been trying to get 2500 or so and got a bunch of flakes and lowballers so ended up going ahead with a 2k offer where person was serious and showed up and no bs

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#149 3 months ago
Quoted from MT45:

Buddy that's new to PB wants one game for his man cave
Wont spend over $2,500, can't be an EM
Teenage grandkids (boys) and himself would be the players
Titles that fit?
I told him he picked a heck of a time to try to search out a $2,500 game

Damn Man, You've got 42 games in your collection, can't help your buddy out? I see a couple that would fit the bill.

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