A Truce With The Guru

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#1 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine. I sincerely apologize to The Guru, we talked it out and we’ve come to an understanding, settled our differences, and we will soon be running through a field of daisies together. Apparently the Guru sold his game to a pinsider here at his asking price and all parties are happy.

Also, we’ve secured a Jackbot pinball machine for my friend in NYC who is dealing with a serious illness, and the Guru is making a $50 donation [edit- he sent 100!! Great!!] to help out with the purchase. He's a stand up dude and I regret pushing his buttons.

Pinside- truly a place that brings people together!

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#2 6 years ago

TDK

SilverBallz

Pinside member

Chicago, IL

11y 51,300 1,781 8

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine. I sincerely apologize to The Guru, we talked it out and we’ve come to an understanding, settled our differences, and we will soon be running through a field of daisies together. Apparently the Guru sold his game to a pinsider here at his asking price and all parties are happy.
Also, we’ve secured a Jackbot pinball machine for my friend in NYC who is dealing with a serious illness, and the Guru is making a $50 donation to help out the purchase. He's a stand up dude and I regret pushing his buttons.
Pinside- truly a place that brings people together!

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#3 6 years ago

JTJ

LesManley

Pinside member

Woodbury, MN

12y 127K 5,825 9 46

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine. I sincerely apologize to The Guru, we talked it out and we’ve come to an understanding, settled our differences, and we will soon be running through a field of daisies together. Apparently the Guru sold his game to a pinsider here at his asking price and all parties are happy.
Also, we’ve secured a Jackbot pinball machine for my friend in NYC who is dealing with a serious illness, and the Guru is making a $50 donation to help out the purchase. He's a stand up dude and I regret pushing his buttons.
Pinside- truly a place that brings people together!

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#4 6 years ago

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jgentry

Pinside member

10y 137K 5,229

Feels like Kenada even more now that he's handing out $

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#5 6 years ago

JON

bigehrl

Jackbar

New York, NY

12y 97,150 3,829 79

looks like i'm wasting yet another few hours, reading a closed sorcerer thread.

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#6 6 years ago

ABB

Aurich

Mods and Opinions

Torrance, CA

11y 144K 23,395 3

This is a nice gesture.

I didn't really think you overdid it with the smartass routine for what it's worth, felt just about like an even keel to me.

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#7 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

the 50 clams is in my account and I'm sending it to the guy who's dealing with all this stuff. Thanks Guru!

edit: he actually sent 100 bucks. Awesome!

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#8 6 years ago

REW

woody76

Pinball Marketing

Nashville, TN

9y 142K 6,843 6 98

is this kind of like when 2 dudes beat the crap out of each other and then go have a beer together?

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#9 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from woody76:
is this kind of like when 2 dudes beat the crap out of each other and then go have a beer together?

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#10 6 years ago

CRD

chad

Game Guy

11y 140K 15,168 9 5

Well done!!

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#11 6 years ago

RIC

fumbleflippers

Pinside member

Cordova, TN

12y 56,550 925

i think it's great y'all were able to peg out your differences

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#12 6 years ago

DC

Darcy

Pinside member

Leduc, AB

11y 124K 6,360 17

So does that mean that CrazyLevi will have to shorten his name to just Levi?

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#13 6 years ago

DEL

robotron

Pinside member

Middletown, NY

9y 88,800 2,475 6

i dont like the polite side of crazy levi.

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#14 6 years ago

SBS

o-din

Pinside+ Addict

11y 158K 58,784

So this is what happens when you live in a city of eight million people and have no real friends.

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#15 6 years ago

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brainmegaphone

Pinside member

9y 73,550 1,337

This post is terrific and I admire people could admit fault and “shake hands”. Then I really admire getting a pinball machine to someone who really needs something in their life right now.

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#16 6 years ago

TIM

Tuna_Delight

Pinside+ Frequent

14y 178K 7,261 1

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine.

Quoted from o-din:
So this is what happens when you live in a city of eight million people and have no real friends.

ouch

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#17 6 years ago

PEZ

pezpunk

iScored

Bristow, VA

11y 103K 7,008 4 20

There was no overdoing of anything on your part. That guy was an insufferable douchebag.

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#18 6 years ago

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jkashani

Pinside+ Frequent

Greystone Park, NJ

9y 119K 3,589 6

Pinside is weird. I suggest that all the people who had beef on threads where a "hi my name is...." badge and meet up and some pinball festival or skype, facetime or something like that.

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#19 6 years ago

SBS

o-din

Pinside+ Addict

11y 158K 58,784

Quoted from Tuna_Delight:
ouch

In a few days, I will start a thread and apologize to Levi.

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#20 6 years ago

ODB

Gryszzz

Pinside+ Frequent

Indianapolis, IN

10y 120K 13,252 9

LOL. Now that was funny.

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#21 6 years ago

TER

SUPERBEE

Inactive member

Newmarket, ON

10y 74,650 3,469 6 6

Quoted from o-din:
In a few days, I will start a thread and apologize to Levi.

Now thats some funny shit right there !

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#22 6 years ago

JPM

jmountjoy111

Pinside member

Williamsburg, KY

10y 109K 3,431 84

I’m glad it all worked out but honestly that last thread was my favorite on pinside since waspinat0r left

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#23 6 years ago

PHB

Chisox

Pinside member

Frankfort, IL

9y 129K 4,278 9 37

He was totally asking for it. And props to both of you on your generosity to your buddy. I’d be willing to contribute a little to your friends machine too as I feel pinball is good for the soul and a great distraction from whatever is ailing him/her.

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#24 6 years ago

SJS

Stones

Pinside member

Smithville, MO

10y 139K 3,065 31

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine. I sincerely apologize to The Guru, we talked it out and we’ve come to an understanding, settled our differences, and we will soon be running through a field of daisies together. Apparently the Guru sold his game to a pinsider here at his asking price and all parties are happy.
Also, we’ve secured a Jackbot pinball machine for my friend in NYC who is dealing with a serious illness, and the Guru is making a $50 donation [edit- he sent 100!! Great!!] to help out with the purchase. He's a stand up dude and I regret pushing his buttons.
Pinside- truly a place that brings people together!

That was one of the craziest shitshow threads in awhile. Very cool you guys worked it out. Kudos to the Guru for donating.....is there a place for others of us to donate for a good cause? I need some good karma....

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#25 6 years ago

LUV

RandomGuyOffCL

Pinside member

9y 83,800 2,075

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Last week there was a sorcerer thread here where I overdid it with the smartass routine. I sincerely apologize to The Guru, we talked it out and we’ve come to an understanding, settled our differences, and we will soon be running through a field of daisies together. Apparently the Guru sold his game to a pinsider here at his asking price and all parties are happy.
Also, we’ve secured a Jackbot pinball machine for my friend in NYC who is dealing with a serious illness, and the Guru is making a $50 donation [edit- he sent 100!! Great!!] to help out with the purchase. He's a stand up dude and I regret pushing his buttons.
Pinside- truly a place that brings people together!

I remember my first run in with you where you tried to push my buttons to get a rise...called me “nuts”, so I responded back with a picture of nuts in the shape of a heart, to which you replied that I was being passive aggressive or something...still not giving into your mind games, I remember saying “me so sorry” While upvoting your insulting posts towards me...finally you gave up by slinging one last insult at me

I quickly realized that I was dealing with someone who wanted to pleasure himself by controlling my emotions and found it quite easy to disarm you...but this poor Guru guy fell for it, and while entertaining for most of us to watch, it was kind of painful to watch you twist this new member around your finger to the point where you told him how you now owned his thread...

Its just unfortunate that you were allowed to bring out the worst in that new member to the point where he seems to be regarded by the community now as an..

Quoted from pezpunk:
insufferable douchebag.

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#26 6 years ago

TER

SUPERBEE

Inactive member

Newmarket, ON

10y 74,650 3,469 6 6

Glad things got worked out. Sick of price policing. People dont like the price ? Then dont buy it ! (not saying that you price policed but thats what i think got that thread heated up ).

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#27 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Ha! He even left me a good review on yelp! Love this kid!

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#28 6 years ago

TER

SUPERBEE

Inactive member

Newmarket, ON

10y 74,650 3,469 6 6

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Ha! He even left me a good review on yelp! Love this kid!

Awww, thats soo cute, you found a new bff ....

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#29 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:
I remember my first run in with you where you tried to push my buttons to get a rise...called me “nuts”, so I responded back with a picture of nuts in the shape of a heart, to which you replied that I was being passive aggressive or something...still not giving into your mind games, I remember saying “me so sorry” While upvoting your insulting posts towards me...finally you gave up by slinging one last insult at me
I quickly realized that I was dealing with someone who wanted to pleasure himself by controlling my emotions and found it quite easy to disarm you...but this poor Guru guy fell for it, and while entertaining for most of us to watch, it was kind of painful to watch you twist this new member around your finger to the point where you told him how you now owned his thread...
Its just unfortunate that you were allowed to bring out the worst in that new member to the point where he seems to be regarded by the community now as an..

Ok. Well sorry. Really. It’s just my style sometimes.

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#30 6 years ago

JPC

DngrWillRobinson

Inactive member

Chicago, IL

6y 43,650 378 3

Quoted from RandomGuyOffCL:
I remember my first run in with you where you tried to push my buttons to get a rise...called me “nuts”, so I responded back with a picture of nuts in the shape of a heart, to which you replied that I was being passive aggressive or something...still not giving into your mind games, I remember saying “me so sorry” While upvoting your insulting posts towards me...finally you gave up by slinging one last insult at me
I quickly realized that I was dealing with someone who wanted to pleasure himself by controlling my emotions and found it quite easy to disarm you...but this poor Guru guy fell for it, and while entertaining for most of us to watch, it was kind of painful to watch you twist this new member around your finger to the point where you told him how you now owned his thread...
Its just unfortunate that you were allowed to bring out the worst in that new member to the point where he seems to be regarded by the community now as an..

Dude, there’s a reason he’s called CrazyLevi. Kinda like Bad Bad Leroy Brown, it’s kinda built into the name so you know what your dealing with.

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#31 6 years ago

TER

SUPERBEE

Inactive member

Newmarket, ON

10y 74,650 3,469 6 6

And so it begins again !

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#32 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Quoted from o-din:
So this is what happens when you live in a city of eight million people and have no real friends.

Oh come on that’s ridiculous.

You ever notice most my posts are during the day? And everybody knows I have a beautiful girlfriend.

Just got back from seeing Udo with friends. I bet you like Accept!

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#33 6 years ago

DHF

fosaisu

Pinside+ Frequent

10y 142K 10,342

Quoted from o-din:
So this is what happens when you live in a city of eight million people and have no real friends.

Totally out of line, o-din. New York has a population of 8.5 million.

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#34 6 years ago

ZEN

zene10

Pinball Z

8y 68,550 886

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#35 6 years ago

JON

bigehrl

Jackbar

New York, NY

12y 97,150 3,829 79

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Ha! He even left me a good review on yelp! Love this kid!

wait a second! you have a yelp page?!? oh, boy!!!

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#36 6 years ago

BUD

BudManPinFan

Pinside member

7y 71,050 1,333 3

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Just got back from seeing Udo with friends. I bet you like Accept!

How is Udo sounding these days? Hopefully his set featured ‘Balls to the Wall’.

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#37 6 years ago

TOM

Crile1

Pinside+ Frequent

Elizabethtown, KY

7y 99,800 2,089 14 31 1

In all seriousness, I think there is something to be learned here. As a newish member (coming up on one year), I am terrified about making a thread for a game I may want to sell. In my opinion, the for sale threads should be a place to ask and answer questions about a game or validate a seller. Instead, the mentioned Sorcerer thread turned into a bunch of guys bullying a newbie. Right or wrong, high price or low, he had a right to his opinion. I thought it was too high for the quality of game, so I saw it and passed. But I didn't feel the need to belittle the guy or call him names. I am appalled that the moderators didn't shut the thread down or expel Levi for leading it down the path it went. I would hate to have my for sale thread hijacked by people calling me names because they think I'm over pricing my game. But I am glad you guys worked it out. Just wished it wouldn't have gone so far.

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#39 6 years ago

JON

bigehrl

Jackbar

New York, NY

12y 97,150 3,829 79

i took the liberty of leaving you a yelp review...

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#40 6 years ago

OP

LEV

CrazyLevi

Crazy Levi's Pinball

New York, NY

10y 148K 33,527

Yeah...but will I run off to Israel with all your cash like the real Crazy Eddie?!

Edit- I see you covered that lol

Quoted from BudManPinFan:
How is Udo sounding these days? Hopefully his set featured ‘Balls to the Wall’.

Like gravel in a blender, how he’s supposed
To sound. Yeah your encore: fast as a shark and balls to the wall. It was great. My head hurts and I’m going back to sleep.

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#41 6 years ago

DIA

mrossman5

Pinside+ Frequent

Warren, PA

6y 197K 3,175 7 253

It was the right thing to do, but I still don’t like the dude.

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#42 6 years ago

BUD

BudManPinFan

Pinside member

7y 71,050 1,333 3

OP
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Like gravel in a blender, how he’s supposed
To sound. Yeah your encore: fast as a shark and balls to the wall. It was great. My head hurts and I’m going back to sleep.

Yep, gravel in a blender, classic Udo! Two of my favorite Accept songs for the encore, wish I was there.

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#43 6 years ago

DIO

Dee-Bow

Pinside member

Regina, SK

8y 101K 5,293 4

Quoted from Crile1:
I am appalled that the moderators didn't shut the thread down or expel Levi for leading it down the path it went. I would hate to have my for sale thread hijacked by people calling me names because they think I'm over pricing my game

i was baffled by the trolling allowed with the lame meme after lame meme people were making. The kid had no chance after one of the moderators even jumped in on the price policing and said this pin would of been sold already if not outrageous price! Good ol'pinside.

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#44 6 years ago

TER

SUPERBEE

Inactive member

Newmarket, ON

10y 74,650 3,469 6 6

Quoted from BudManPinFan:
Yep, gravel in a blender, classic Udo! Two of my favorite Accept songs for the encore, wish I was there.

Saw Accept way back in the 80s. Cool band. Loved the album and song Metal Heart.

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#45 6 years ago

BJ.

Brijam

Inactive member

Unknown

9y 58,300 1,093 26 23

He wasn't really price policed. He asked for input and got defensive when it was given to him.

I think the community was very reasonable -at first- and the OP escalated again and again and again.

At the very end he claimed to sell his pin on eBay and then edited his post to remove the reference when I called it out.

So I'm glad he donated to a worthy cause. But not trustworthy. Not nice. Not a stand up person.

Another Sorcerer is now for sale for $1599, with a playfield about as bad and possibly other issues with a bunch of "great price should sell fast" comments. The seller on that one simply posted the problems with the machine and didn't tangle with people.

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#46 6 years ago

JPJ

Frippertron

Pinside member

Sparta, NJ

7y 60,800 2,301

I didn't think Levi over did anything. The guru was abrasive and condescending to a community he knew nothing about right off the the bat. I felt like Levi was the guy keeping him in check, that's all. I'm glad they patched things up. Too bad the guru can't redeem himself and is not allowed back here. I'd like to hear from him after he cooled down.

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#47 6 years ago

PEZ

pezpunk

iScored

Bristow, VA

11y 103K 7,008 4 20

Quoted from Brijam:
He wasn't really price policed. He asked for input and got defensive when it was given to him.
I think the community was very reasonable -at first- and the OP escalated again and again and again.
At the very end he claimed to sell his pin on eBay and then edited his post to remove the reference when I called it out.
So I'm glad he donated to a worthy cause. But not trustworthy. Not nice. Not a stand up person.
Another Sorcerer is now for sale for $1599, with a playfield about as bad and possibly other issues with a bunch of "great price should sell fast" comments. The seller on that one simply posted the problems with the machine and didn't tangle with people.

It was the OP and only OP spouting profanity and eventually melting down and slinging explicit and bizarrely specific homophobic insults.

Everyone else was talking about pinball machine prices.