You can see from the diagram #jeffc posted where the override stop goes. I just want to emphasize that it is not supposed to touch or stop the armature. The cradle arms (drive pawl) at the end of the armature need to fully engage the gear wheel (ratchet), otherwise the stepper will not work correctly.

The override stop is just supposed to prevent the cradle from digging too far into the gear wheel after making a full engagement. It's really difficult to set this stop properly on AS relays that have a printed circuit board on both sides of the relay.

If you can't get the override stop adjusted exactly, just make sure it's not touching the armature when the cradle arms are fully engaged with the ratchet.

- TimMe

I've been playing with my AS RELAY in my King Kool for months, on and off.

I've replaced most parts, resoldered the disk, adjusted the spring, the switches, the tension, etc etc etc.

ONE PROBLEM persists: I get TWO score for every 10-point hit. The green-lit dial spins two places continuously, missing the proper scoring and doubling everything.... I take the AS RELAY out, try clicking the lever, it spins one place--perfect! I put it into the game, I get TWO spaces, every hit.

What is this? What am I missing? Is there something else in the game doubling the score?? I have been so confused. The relay seems pretty well tuned, regardless!

This relay requires precision tuning. It is almost impossible to actuate it by hand and get the same precise results as a pulse from the game.

Your drive pawl is clicking more than one tooth on the drive gear when it is being pulsed by the game. IF you have adjusted everything else per the instructions, take apart the relay and check for wear at the hinge where the red arrow is pointing. Any wear on the frame or armature will cause inconsistent results even if the relay is adjusted per the instructions.

See wear on armature plate below. This little bit of wear caused the same condition as you describe and could not be compensated for by adjustment.

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Try adjusting the override stop so that overall travel of the realy is less. I believe it is open too wide and jumping a tooth..a very common issue. I used to hate these, but bit the bullet and spent time taking them apart and cleaning. Thank God they are removeable. Most of the time, they can be cleaned and adjusted without needing new parts.

THANKS! I was spending a day or two trying to get my head around this.... then I realized:

IT ROTATES ON TWO SCREWS!!!

At that point, I GOT IT. I quickly loosened screws, lowered the stop, retightened, and now--PERFECT!!
My AS RELAY (which the original owner unplugged because it wasn't working) finally functions properly after tons of work replacing parts, desoldering things, adjusting, etc etc.

Problem now: the last light isn't lighting up... still some work to go, and I just desoldered that darn lamp and disk connection.