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A Fish Tales thread for Jim


By practicalsteve

8 months ago



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#1 8 months ago

Over the years I have had the honor and pleasure of hosting some pins for my friend Jim. I clean them up and get to play them until I’m tired of them.

A few years back I cleaned up his funhouse and documented it in a blog, which he said he really enjoyed. I can’t remember the password for my blogspot account, and have barely any free time as is, so doing it on here will be much easier.

This won’t be a high end restore, and probably won’t be of much interest to people other than Jim, but you are welcome to follow along.

I was REALLY excited to get the chance at FT. A game I love, and only the second DMD era game to ever be in the game room. I usually have to stick to lower price point games format personal collection (I have two kids.) This came in fully “working” but dirty as hell, which is my favorite kind of game.

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#2 8 months ago

This was previously in his friends home for a number of years and it goes to show that a game in a home can get plenty dirty and neglected.

Once set up and turned on the right flipper was very sticky and didn’t want to return. A spring was stretched in the hopes to hack it for a few games to welcome it but that didn’t work very well (or very long,) so the next day it was time to tear those flippers apart. You can see they were filthy, and an examination of the plunger and the coil stop quickly showed why the flipper was no bueno.

Note the iconic trucker hat in the background of the first photo

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#3 8 months ago

a little preview of the dirt I’m dealing with

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#4 7 months ago

I like to find and try new cleaners. Maybe this is overkill but I picked this up at Home Despot to use on the tough grease on metal parts only. I really like the results. MUST USE RUBBER GLOVES though, it’s brutal on your hands

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#5 7 months ago

My method.

A lot of people like to use plastic bags for sorting all of their parts, I find that cumbersome and that the bags get filthy after one use. I have been using ice cube trays from the dollar store. I prefer them as I break my teardowns into lots of little steps, some steps may only require two little screws. The disadvantage is that this could get spilled or knocked over, but as you will see in my next post while that would be frustrating and irritating it would not be catastrophic.

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#6 7 months ago

Each step of the teardown is numbered and written down in a log. The number corresponds to the compartment in the ice cube tray that the hardware can be found. Any metal that will be visible that needs to be especially polished gets a purple asterisk next to it. Any rubber removed and to be replaced gets circled.

In addition to this a photo is taken of everything that was removed prior to going into the ice cube tray. I try my best to arrange things in a way in the photo to show where they went on the playfield. The photo is also numbered with a small slip of paper.

This works best for me because I don’t get long stretches of time to work on my pins. I have two kids so I only get small chunks of time, an hour here, twenty minutes there.

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#7 7 months ago

All torn down and very dirty!

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#8 7 months ago

But even just the first pass with Naptha does wonders

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#9 7 months ago

Thats a pretty damn nice playfield. No real insert wear. Most Fish Tales i've seen have massive insert wear around the fish and lower inserts in general. This should clean up nicely.

#10 7 months ago
Quoted from Squeakman:

Thats a pretty damn nice playfield. No real insert wear. Most Fish Tales i've seen have massive insert wear around the fish and lower inserts in general. This should clean up nicely.

Yeah, I was shocked at how well the inserts held up!

#11 7 months ago
Quoted from practicalsteve:

But even just the first pass with Naptha does wonders
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Following with delight Steve.
Naptha?? Please do tell.
Nice work.

#12 7 months ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Following with delight Steve.
Naptha?? Please do tell.
Nice work.

A ton of people swear by it, we can’t really buy it in California, it’s like kerosene. My buddy gets it from Oregon and brings it back. I bet someone near you has a way of getting it. It’s good for cleaning and removing wax. I wouldn’t consider it a deep cleaner though.

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#13 7 months ago

Thank you Steve.
Yup, here in Ca we've lost some good toxic chemicals, Lol.
Barge fabric and shoe glue is one I miss.

#14 7 months ago

Some days you get a lot done, some just a little- but I try to look at any minor things get done as an accomplishment. Orders were put into various pinball suppliers earlier this week and one package came today. I had just enough tome to swap out the plunger and sleeve for the ball launch. When it arrived the ball didn’t have a lot of oomph at launch, this should help.

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#15 6 months ago

Here’s a great tip I received from a buddy. I often (especially during flipper rebuilds) find I have trouble slipping the new sleeve back into the coil. The coil is perfectly fine, it just doesn’t want to easily and without a lot of force take the sleeve. some rolled up 100 grit sandpaper does the trick! I just rolled some and rotated it and did a little quick back and forth and the new sleeves went in much easier

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#16 5 months ago

Man I am terrible at keeping this updated. So terrible since I finished the shop job TWO WEEKS AGO! Pictures are coming as soon as my broken phone gets out of the iphone shop.

#17 5 months ago

I do have one thing to share. Upon set up the ball was having a tough time making that loop off of the plunge. I had thought that it must be the plunger as the plastic tip was all mushroomed, but I replaced that and it didn't seem to help. Took the apron off and found that if I loosen these two screws i can change the angle the ball was hit by the plunger, after a couple of adjustments the ball now sails around as it should.

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#18 5 months ago

It cleaned up nicely! I used warm white frosted in the GI and some of the backbox. Titan White rubbers.

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#19 5 months ago

It looks beautiful Steve!

#20 5 months ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Thank you Steve.
Yup, here in Ca we've lost some good toxic chemicals, Lol.
Barge fabric and shoe glue is one I miss.

Eric, you can still buy this in Ca.
It is 100% naptha and works great...I use it to clean after sanding, before spraying paint or primer..

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#21 4 months ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Eric, you can still buy this in Ca.
It is 100% naptha and works great...I use it to clean after sanding, before spraying paint or primer..[quoted image]

Thanks Cosmo!
Steve- This FT turned out really Nice!! Great Job.

#22 4 months ago
Quoted from Ericpinballfan:

Thanks Cosmo!
Steve- This FT turned out really Nice!! Great Job.

Thanks buddy! The best thing about it happened after I got it all back together. My boy had grown pretty bored of my line up. If we were out somewhere that had a hot new flashy game he would get excited, but back at home when asked if he wanted to play my old classics he wouldn’t get to excited and didn’t show much interest.

Now he goes downstairs when I’m not even home to turn them on. He’s learning the rules, he’s taking his time, he’s getting multiball every few games. Best of all he’s learned the concept of a two player game and we play together. I can’t thank Jim enough for trusting me with this game that got Felix interested in pinball again. I missed getting a picture of his best score yet, a cool 100mil the other day.

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#23 40 days ago

Great works, I appreciate smart ice tray use to sort your parts. I haven't thought about ice trays. I can even sort the different sections of these ice cube tray so that they can be mounted in order.

#24 39 days ago
Quoted from BrittanyAustin:

Great works, I appreciate smart ice tray use to sort your parts. I haven't thought about ice trays. I can even sort the different sections of these ice cube tray so that they can be mounted in order.

Welcome to Pinside!!!
Ive done labeled ziplocks as a sort method. Helps when I had a 1000 medium ziplocks for free when work was tossing them, they came from a battery recycling program that died.

#25 37 days ago

I did ziplocks at first, I found that they sorta just piled up though and opening and closing then was a drag though, plus they would get dirty and I wouldn’t use them again. I’ve cube trays are washable and it’s easy to take things in and out as needed

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