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A Fish Tales rebuild...PICS UP


By cosmokramer

1 year ago



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#201 1 year ago

I don't think getting the cat to move to the new cabinet will be hard. In my experience, they will move when it is the optimum time to interfere with what you are doing.

#202 1 year ago

Great work so far cosmo !!

#203 1 year ago

Awesome thread and progress cosmo! Great to see all the progress and especially the cabinet work!

#204 1 year ago

Hey cosmo are you going to offer cabinet kits? Your so good at it could be a great opportunity. Virtualpin has cabinets, but some of us can’t warrant spending that much. If it came in pieces and one could just assemble it, with some glue and a nail gun would be awesome!

#205 1 year ago
Quoted from Soulrider911:

Hey cosmo are you going to offer cabinet kits? Your so good at it could be a great opportunity. Virtualpin has cabinets, but some of us can’t warrant spending that much. If it came in pieces and one could just assemble it, with some glue and a nail gun would be awesome!

The problem is that without automation like CNC it is a lot of work to do this one at a time by hand and would be tough im sure for cosmo to keep it at a decent price and not work for free.

#206 1 year ago

Building pinball cabinets is hard....
That being said I have a few WPC cabs I am finishing up that will be for sale, fully assembled and drilled with heavy duty leg plates installed. I have a few cabs to build after that for some people who have been patiently waiting... after that I will have some information on some kits I plan on selling, as well as fully decaled and painted cabs, but Im not ready for that yet so any announcement on these wont be coming for awhile...

New cab is being populated, I want to figure out placement of components before the paint and decals are on so as to minimize risk of damage...

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Starting the head...

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#207 1 year ago

Looking great Cosmo! Can’t wait to hear what you will be able to offer in the future!

#208 1 year ago

Still looking for missing reel handle shooter assembly and fishing rod plastic...
I drilled the cab for the reel, not the generic ball launch button I may have to use if I cant locate one...

#209 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Still looking for missing reel handle shooter assembly and fishing rod plastic...
I drilled the cab for the reel, not the generic ball launch button I may have to use if I cant locate one...

Pm sent.
Great work on the cabinet. This thing is looking amazing, will look even better with handle.

#210 1 year ago

Fucking A man.

#211 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Still looking for missing reel handle shooter assembly and fishing rod plastic...
I drilled the cab for the reel, not the generic ball launch button I may have to use if I cant locate one...

Looks like I have a solid lead on the reel handle from a trustworthy pinsider, I will confirm when I have it in my possesion....now I am focusing on finding the missing plastic...

#212 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Looks like I have a solid lead on the reel handle from a trustworthy pinsider, I will confirm when I have it in my possesion....now I am focusing on finding the missing plastic...

If it falls through, I'd bet you could find these fairly cheap on ebay. There has to be some way of installing it.

Call it a Ronco mod and consider your machine worth even more.
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2 weeks later
#213 1 year ago

The head turned out to be a bit more challenging, I underestimated the amount of work to make it like the original was. Routing out for the lock cam and cutting trim pieces took forever to figure out how to do it right...finally should have cab base and head together in a few days, then move on to fill and sand...

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#214 1 year ago

Nice! Is that mdo or birch veneer ply?

#215 1 year ago
Quoted from Badamack:

Nice! Is that mdo or birch veneer ply?

domestic birch

#216 1 year ago

Glad to see updates and progress being made!

#218 1 year ago

Test fitting with some mis matched parts, I want to do all my fine tuning before I tear it back down for the artwork...

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Speaker panel and translite fit well, time to move on to back box latch and hinges...

Went to the Museum of Pinball today to help prepare for arcade expo for a short while, while I was there I took the opportunityto make a template for the large plastic I am missing. I am going to try to make a new one, however it really looks like it is going to be a pain in the ass. I traced the profile onto some paper, marking the areas where I will have to heat and bend...

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Drilling holes for lightboard hardware...

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A few minor adjustments and the light board is good to go...

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Lock and trim pieces fitted...lock is temporarily screwed in, t nuts will be installed before final glueing of parts. These last few details are quickly being crossed off the to do list...

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#219 1 year ago

After a total of 41 holes measured and drilled in the head and another 33 in the lower cab, I am finally ready to start to fill and sand...

20180204_121414 (resized).jpgbut before I do I have to glue in the trim pieces at the top of the head...you can see I had to install T nuts for the lock plate before glueing...

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This area proved to be the most challenging to get it right...

#221 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Test fitting with some mis matched parts, I want to do all my fine tuning before I tear it back down for the artwork...

Speaker panel and translite fit well, time to move on to back box latch and hinges...
Went to the Museum of Pinball today to help prepare for arcade expo for a short while, while I was there I took the opportunityto make a template for the large plastic I am missing. I am going to try to make a new one, however it really looks like it is going to be a pain in the ass. I traced the profile onto some paper, marking the areas where I will have to heat and bend...

Drilling holes for lightboard hardware...

A few minor adjustments and the light board is good to go...

Lock and trim pieces fitted...lock is temporarily screwed in, t nuts will be installed before final glueing of parts. These last few details are quickly being crossed off the to do list...

Wow. Amazing. Master of wood.

#222 1 year ago

Setting T nuts in the neck with a contraption...

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Before...

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After...

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#223 1 year ago

One of the drawbacks when using a brand new cab is that it takes a lot of work to get the parts to all fit and work properly...but the nice thing about a new cab is that unlike restoring an old one, there is no gluing or reinforcing needed and very little bondo work.... next stop, primertown!

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#224 1 year ago

Well, I forgot there was a 2 hour layover in Tapeville before I can travel on to Primertown
I wanted to paint the inside all the way down, but keep the natural woodgrain look for the bottom itself...this requires a lot of patience to tape it off properly. I use green frog tape in medium (21 day clean release) for the edges to control paint seepage... then mask the rest with paper and blue tape...I left the speaker and power switch pads along with the cross member exposed to be painted black for a bit of contrast

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Then the bottom side...

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Gonna do the head the same way...all black and natural partical board on the rear...

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#225 1 year ago

Wait
..what is that?...can it be!?...

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It is! Its light at the end of the tunnel, I can see it!

#226 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Its light at the end of the tunnel, I can see it!

Or it could be the lights of a freight train heading at you full speed.

Looking great, eager to see the end result!!

#227 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Wait
..what is that?...can it be!?...
It is! Its light at the end of the tunnel, I can see it!

It is fascinating to be following both current Fish Tales restos: yours and the one from Soulrider911. Same game, more or less the same starting point - yet a remarkably different approach and process. Very interesting.

I can imagine that it must be fascinating for both of you as well to check each-others progress. I hope to be in that situation one day myself.

#228 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Wait
..what is that?...can it be!?...

It is! Its light at the end of the tunnel, I can see it!

Nice!!!!

A tunnel?? With a light?? In a fish tales restoration thread??? Could the tunnel be tied to the Knights Templar? Or simply the handiwork or master craftsman cosmo???

#229 1 year ago
Quoted from jmountjoy111:

A tunnel?? With a light?? In a fish tales restoration thread??? Could the tunnel be tied to the Knights Templar? Or simply the handiwork or master craftsman cosmo???

Oh you had to... all i heard was the voice of the narrator for oak island - THANKS

#230 1 year ago

And this us why we dont use cheap ass tape when we run out of good tape...

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#231 1 year ago

Curious: why did you mask the bottom edge of the sides of the cabinet?

#232 1 year ago
Quoted from Badamack:

Curious: why did you mask the bottom edge of the sides of the cabinet?

it just gives it a nice clean look...
Set up a homeless encampment style spray booth in the garage...

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Just shot a very light coat and bailed out... respirator was not doing the job properly and I was getting higher than a nornal Tuesday night
Also I was not quite happy with the performance of the HVLP gun, I need to adjust some settings before the next application.
Gonna pick up a fresh respirator tomorrow and shoot a nice coat, then sand after it dries. The primer makes it easy to see the remaining defects, dings, scratches, dimples, depressions, dents, marks, pits etc. that seem to come from nowhere...these will be filled and sanded before the next coat...

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#233 1 year ago
Quoted from g94:

It is fascinating to be following both current Fish Tales restos: yours and the one from Soulrider911. Same game, more or less the same starting point - yet a remarkably different approach and process. Very interesting.
I can imagine that it must be fascinating for both of you as well to check each-others progress. I hope to be in that situation one day myself.

I have enjoyed following soulrider911 restoration thread. He was also kind enough to share his talents with me for this project, his contribution will be applied and revealed after the painting is completed.

#234 1 year ago
Quoted from Badamack:

Curious: why did you mask the bottom edge of the sides of the cabinet?

Keep me honest. Here cosmokramer, original williams and abally cabinets the whole bottom is not painnted including the edges. I did the same treatment on my cabinet. Looking good man! You making some great progress love it!

#235 1 year ago
Quoted from Soulrider911:

original williams and abally cabinets the whole bottom is not painnted including the edges

Yes they are raw wood on the edges...I considered painting the edge but there is something about the look of natural wood that I like...not that anybody will see it anyway.

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I got a chuckle last night when my adult daughter came home, she saw all the plastic, gloves and rubber hoses in the garage and said she thought I went "Dexter"...

#236 1 year ago

So what are you using for primer and paint?

#237 1 year ago
Quoted from uncivil_engineer:

So what are you using for primer and paint?

Im shooting rustoleum filler primer right now, it does a great job of filling in the small cracks/scuffs but sure is dusty when sanded...

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#238 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Im shooting rustoleum filler primer right now, it does a great job of filling in the small cracks/scuffs but sure is dusty when sanded...

I think the purpose of a high build primer is to be sanded, so being dusty while sanding may be a feature, not a bug.

#239 1 year ago

Sprayed a decent coat of primer today. Overall I am happy with the early results, however in my typical fashion it did not go without a hiccup. I made the classic error of running out of paint just before finishing. I have a few areas where I couldnt finish and the primer is a bit thin...after sanding out this coat I will put down one more heavier coat and sand again before begining to shoot the black...this primer knocks down easily with a few swipes of the sanding block and quickly smoothes out to a nice feel...
Pics just after shooting but before sanding...

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1 week later
#240 1 year ago

Sanded, filled, sanded, final coat of primer....

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Next I have to knock down the primer with some sandpaper and I'm ready for the first coat of black...

#241 1 year ago

Very nice man, keep it up!

#242 1 year ago

In the words of fish tales dude... “WOW what a beauty”

#243 1 year ago

Sprayed first coat of black, I failed to achieve complete coverage. I sprayed too thin in some areas, and totally missed a few areas and spray angles....but, the paint that is down is very smooth and looks great, the black sprays a bit different than the primer so I think I will tweak the settings just a bit for the next coat....tomorrow I will wet sand what was sprayed today and try to lay down a better coat ...

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#244 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Sprayed first coat of black, I failed to achieve complete coverage. I sprayed too thin in some areas, and totally missed a few areas and spray angles....but, the paint that is down is very smooth and looks great, the black sprays a bit different than the primer so I think I will tweak the settings just a bit for the next coat....tomorrow I will wet sand what was sprayed today and try to lay down a better coat tomorrow...

I know you showed the primer you are using. What's the black?

#245 1 year ago
Quoted from Badamack:

I know you showed the primer you are using. What's the black?

I almost made the mistake of shooting latex paint, I know some people will use latex but I dont think it is durable enough...So at the last minute I send a PM to another amateur restorer here on pinside and he recommended this.... its ready to spray with no thinning and worked well with the HVLP gun...

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My local auto parts shop has it in stock, they can order it by the gallon...
Thanks to soulrider911 for the recommendation...

#246 1 year ago

Also, I am very excited as today I am expecting a package that contains a very important item that I have been looking for extensively... stay tuned!

#247 1 year ago

Ohhhhhh, what type of unobtanium did you get your hands on!?!?! A reel plastic? the right side of the gun? Do tell!!!!

#248 1 year ago

He has hunted the handle for a long time. I sure hope that’s what it is.

#249 1 year ago
Quoted from cosmokramer:

Also, I am very excited as today I am expecting a package that contains a very important item that I have been looking for extensively... stay tuned!

Oh, i hope its the reel playfield plastic!

Quoted from jmountjoy111:He has hunted the handle for a long time. I sure hope that’s what it is.

I think that is covered! Im delivering that to him next weekend. Cosmo we should talk about timing for sunday 25 this week.

#250 1 year ago

Next coat came out better, but I do have a bit of golden retriever hair in the paint. really looking forward to setting up an actual spray booth. Im going to take a corner of my new shop and finally have a dust free enviorment to spray...
I need to wet sand the dog hair out, clean up the area where I have been spraying, and shoot the final coat before I apply decals...my wife has been very patient through this whole process but if I cant get her camaro back in the garage soon it may push her over the edge...

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