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A dark night for Stern

By jfh

6 years ago


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#47 6 years ago

I can’t help wonder if the whole JT thing scuppered what Stern wanted to do at expo and they killed the project he was working on - if that turns out to be true then hats off to Stern, they did plan to talk about a game the Chris was working on. Or maybe after the no flippin batman they decided to listen and only announce a game when it’s ready. Batman’66 has been bad for Stern sadly.

JJP though still have challenges on volume build to overcome. But POTC is the first game I’ve been interested in.

Neil

#61 6 years ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

I know it would never happen, but Stern's absolute best counter to JJP's reveal would be to announce a price DROP. It would further establish that they're in the large scale operator and family NIB market, while allowing JJP to tackle the high end "exotic car" market.
Their LE's can't hold a candle to JJP's standard market, and instead of trying to show value in an $8500 pin, they should drop their 3 price points and dominate the lower tier markets. Put the existing Pro models out at $4750 with a two-for-$9K deal so they can market that you can get 2 Stern Pro's for 1 JJP Pro shipped. That's how you position yourselves strategically.
However, this would make total sense, so obviously Stern wouldn't do such a thing. I have that feeling suggesting a discount to GS is like suggesting a buy-one-get-one-free to Mort.
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are you mental? Stern's sales are hugely up! Why would they reduce the price?!

Neil.

#64 6 years ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You didn't hear? It's all over for stern, and they'd better slash prices and reposition their marketing as the "Yugo of pinball" or they'll be tits up in a year.

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#1872 2 years ago
Quoted from screaminr:

I don't think much has changed .
The initial post , talked about how much JJP puts in their games and depth of code compared to stern .
Both companies recently made a band pin .
It's pretty obvious which company put more effort in .
Neither company can keep up with demand , so I think they're both happy making their games at their price points .

Yup; Stern did, they focused on gameplay and quality. I had both and LedZep is the winner. GNR gone and with the playfield shitshow how anyone can position JJP as the quality brand is sucking hard on the crack pipe.

#1878 2 years ago
Quoted from screaminr:

Yup , Stern has quality warped playfields and mechs that don't work .
GNR has sold way more than Led Zeppelin so the win goes to GNR

can you post your data on what has sold more please? And if you've made it up add an asterix

For the record. I have an Avengers IQ LE that had a warped playfield. Stern replaced the entire playfield. I had a GNR with bits falling off it all over the place and a complete playfield failure. JJP sent an email saying tighten the bolts I wrote to them 6 weeks ago and have had no response.

Neil.

#1879 2 years ago
Quoted from GravitaR:

Another sign of stern quailty. Manda encounter divertor.
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reminds me of my trap door on my Dialed in which still isn't 100% after 4 years!

#1880 2 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

In fairness, JJP only have 2 issues - incredibly crap Mirco Playfields and their response to those incredibly crap Mirco Playfields.

I don't agree, Divertor mech has failed on loads of GNRs, the magnet also and several reports of the board that does the skill shot; then there is the drones on DI, trapdoor on DI.

Stern aren't perfect but those preaching that JJP is are just that - fanatics.

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