Couldn't agree more. It does bother me when Stern people are posed with questions that are generated by the Pinside community and Stern just responds with something along the lines of "oh, they are like less than 5% of our total market"...it makes me want to say (1) I think that's not true and we are a higher percentage, and (2) so what, that's still 5% of your customer base, do they not matter?

Photoshop is not a bad thing when done well. Everyone loves lines and lines of hand drawn art work, but good photoshop work isn't a terrible thing to look at.

This is correct. Everyone is instructed to leave this issue be and stop making public accusations. If you feel you have insite you can give it to us in a mod feedback thread but no more discussion on this issue publically at all. Thanks.

Fair enough, but where are they putting them? I live in an MSA of about 200,000 people or so. There is one (1) modern Stern on rout in my entire MSA, a TRS pro. There are two other routed machines in my MSA, a South Park and a RCT.

Yet in my MSA there are about 40 or so modern Srerns in homes and game rooms that I know of. That's about a 40-1 ratio where I live. Where are all the routed Sterns, if they are out there?

Let's not toss the "lie" word around just yet. Perhaps the operator buyers are just creating an artificial scarcity and are stashing them away in mass to one day flood the market.

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Hey guys, take any bickering or back and forth to pm please. Thanks.

I was disappointed in my TWD LE when it arrived as well. Stern advertised it as having a real backglass...of course it ended up being a translight with mirrored ink on it. In the end, I've been very happy with the game, but Stern needs to stop over promising and under delivering on their games.

Stern needs to knock a game out of the park and really turn some heads.

After your track record you listed above I think Gary may properly believe you’ll buy whatever he tosses at you!!! Ha!

Gosh, I wish I wouldn’t have missed out on LOTRs LE for $5,200 NIB. I’m jealous.

Let's not forget it isn't just the new releases that count. Stern is still running Metallica, GoT, TWD and ACDC. Heck, didn't they do a run of ST early this year too?

I have no idea of the numbers, but it's a safe bet Stern has sold far more machines than its competitors combined this year.

No kidding? Wow! If you can say, was it for posts he or she was making here?

Ah, yes, I remember that one well. A different era for sure. I thought you meant one recently regarding someone making more recent complaints.