Normally I dislike JJP games. Dialed in was good. I enjoy it. But the POTC was fantastic. Normally i'd buy this title, but JJP's prices is so ridiculous I will not. You know he can lower his price $1000 easily and still make hefty profits. It would open him up to a much larger group of collectors, and his sales would double. Instead of $8500 he was at $7500 for the standard. If he sold double the amount of games, I think would be a better benefit, than trying to milk out $1000 out of half as many buyers. Plus it would force stern to either step up their quality game, or drop their prices in return.

well everyone should have a cutoff price in their head. I do it when I buy machines and I do it when buying cars. I can't even remember the last time I paid over $3500 for a car.

fine if JJP goes $3 over my price point, i'll still pull the trigger. $7503

everything in that picture looks good

black knight is not a professional playfield restorer. All advice and things I state about playfield restoration are indeed fact, because i've been doing it for 11 years and have done close to 400 fields. So I do consider myself an expert when it comes to playfields.

The lack of schematics and ability to repair spikes boards was the clincher for me. No more spike games for me ever. Unless I get them cheap and I don't plan on having them stick around.

Ummmm the price between Stern POTC and JJPs lowest version is a price difference of $4700 actually. You could have bought 2 POTC's and money left over for what one JJP one costs.

for 9500. I can buy 10 games that would provide years and years of entertainment, and have. How much you paid for something, has absolutely no reflection on if it's enjoyable or not. I have bought plenty of $400-500 games that are 20x's more fun than a lot of $2000-7500 games.

I think they would know if they were made for cruise ships or yachts as the pinball machines on those, are set on a gyro system, so the playfield remains level even thou the ship is rocking back and forth. I'm sure there are limitation to how far the playfield can swivel, and does effect the ball in severe weather.

pinball being like a video game is the only reason I ever got into pinball. Once TAF came out and realized that the ? door panel was the ending of the game, I was hooked. I played video games just to reach the ending and finish the games. Now pinball had that without the element of being able to do patterns. I was hooked. TAF one year, and TZ the next. Back to back awesomeness. Shit yeah!

And back then up until about 2007, I was a DMD snob like most of these guys are now. But once you played pretty much everything made, you expand your horizons (or find a different hobby). Then expand out to system 11 era...then early SS, and even EM and woodrails. Realizing you can have a blast in all eras of pinball. EM's and early SS games are fantastic to play with people. They have that, "just one more" element to them. And fantastic for dollar games because you don't wait around forever for your turn, and usually scores are neck and neck.

people that focus on how much crap is on a JJP game, don't really play their games or know what they are doing when playing. JJP is a crapfest of clutter and confusion. Most are just not fun. Can't see shit because the GI's are fawking terrible. Inserts are brighter than the GI's, so it's like playing on your front window with the sun shining in. Every insert is lit all the time, so you have no idea what's going on, and the rules are overly complex where you just stop giving a shit. I would never give up a footprint of my collection for any JJP game to date.

Stern is great at mixing fun rules, with short term objectives that are clear to understand and fun to strive for, while making the rules just deep enough for the long haul. JJP could learn many things from stern when it comes to layouts and coding.

in case you havn't noticed. I'm a big advocate on proper lighting on games. It's the single most important aspect on any pinball machine. If you can't see the ball, you can't play. Plain and simple. If you fawk up the GI's, the game is useless. JJP's GI system with the light up post to distribute light, is a straight up shit system. Light distribution is horrible. Just as horrible as their weak feeling flippers. The TWO most important parts of a pinball machine, they screwed it up. Flippers and GI lighting. Terrible on both fronts for JJP. AP flippers feel weak too, but at least they do the GI's correctly and you can see.

I see you finally see the light. Many around here that bought JJP games, have went the same road. You don't really learn until you own one. Congrats on starting to actually play your games.

Thumbs up for a very diverse collection. Love it. You are an exception, because you have diversity. You can tell you play your games. The ones who don't, are the ones that own all JJPs with nothing else, or a Stern LE or something to try and not look like a fanboy......and wipe them off with a diaper while they look at them from across the room. Then sell them down the road with less than 200 plays on them.

have lots of respect for diverse collections. Nice work.

I get POTC. I like the looks and layout. But the rules are so over the top, it becomes unfun. When everything is lit and gives you a reward for something, it's just not exciting.

the lighting job I complain about is the GI's. GI's means general illumination. Which is terrible on most JJP games because they try to light up a post to throw light topside. Lighting up a post from the bottom of the playfield, does not throw light out sideways enough. Light distribution is poor at best.

absolutely this. This is the problem with WOZ, hobbit, wonka and POTC. GNR suffers the same fate.

Most people have dim lit, or completely dark gamerooms. Why? because of glare. Glare is horrible. There is a reason arcades were pitch black back in the day. nothing worse than having room lighting glaring off the glass of pinball machines or arcades. 96% of people have gamerooms that are very dark or black. Hence why GI's are so damn important.

hardly anyone around here buys anti glare glass. Which really doesn't work that well anyway. Doesn't eliminate backglass glare or display glare anyway.

We played GNR LE on location recently and it was a shitshow for lighting. Even in a well lit room, we couldn't see shit because the inserts were 3x's brighter than the GI's. and 90% of them were lit all the time.

Dialed in, seems to be better lit than other JJP games. Don't know why. But it's much better than others.