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A-12742 multiple ground shorts

By fattmatt1972

8 years ago


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    #14 8 years ago

    I think you mixed up U14 and U13. try this one:

    (1) connect a wire from one column drive to all 8 inputs of J208/209
    (2) measure the 8 outputs of the LM339, they should be pulsing
    (3) same signal should enter the inputs at U13, measure them too.

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    #16 8 years ago

    Remove all connectors from J205-J209 and J212, power up the CPU-board.
    Do you measure 5 Volt at all red marked pins of U13 ? (pin 2,4,6,8,11,13,15,17)

    #18 8 years ago

    do I understand correct:
    -With CPU in the machine and no switch inputs connected (on J205-J212) still give row short 1+2+4 , also when U13 is out of socket ?
    -There is continuity from D0-D7 U13 to D0-D7 U12, measured on IC pins
    -The pull-up resistors are connected and working because you measured 5Volt at U13 inputs 1-8.

    #20 8 years ago

    If machine detects a 'ground row short' at row 1,2,4 and the inputs at U13 are Hi-level, all data lines are ok, all (8) direct switch are ok, then my last idea would be to try a new 74LS240 for U13.

    #22 8 years ago

    Is there continuity between pin 1 and pin 19 of U13 ? this IC has 2 separate enables (but that wouldn't explain why row 3 has no problem).

    #25 8 years ago

    applause for all !
    Glad you found it because this was the last thing I could come up with.

    Sascha

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    Quoted from fattmatt1972:

    If you look at the pic I posted earlier in the thread you can actually see the damage just above pin 19.

    Yes, I see what you mean:
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    #28 8 years ago
    Quoted from fattmatt1972:

    The only thing bothering me, and I will find out tomorrow when I test..
    Why was row 3 not shorted like 1,2 and 4.

    I don't know, row 2 and 3 look identical to me in the tech-chart with some mechanical and optical switches combined.

    #30 8 years ago
    Quoted from fattmatt1972:

    By the way, you any good with Stern driver boards?

    No, not really. I've no schematics / boards / machines around to test or check. Maybe after I fully understand WPC I'll dive into other systems but that is still far away.

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