Skateball is a very fast game with no ramps. All the coils have plenty of power. And when those drop targets reset, you feel it. Sound package on this one is very appealing and does not include those annoying beeps many early SS games have. Art package is second to none.

It is not as technically advanced as TNA, but for it's time, it was state of the art as any and seems more advanced than some of what came later.

That being said, when TNA gets here, it is going right next to Skateball.

It's one of those games that once you try it, most likely you will want to buy it. I liked what I saw of it from the get go, but wasn't sold on it completely until I actually played it.

Being I don't care much for long drawn out "story" games where you have to repeatedly hit the ramps over and over again to progress thru the game, it is a total breath of fresh air and I instantly knew i was going to own one, one way or another. If any modern game has that one more game appeal, this one does.

Scott knocked it out of the park with this one, and basically took pinball 20 years into the future from where it left off so long ago.

Yeah, Stars is an all time classic, and very affordable if you can find one. I just finished doing a little work on my lamp board, because when I push play in the middle of the night, it has to work! Chimes instead of electronic sounds is a big plus on this one.

If you don't mind some ramps and an upper play field, Flash Gordon is an early SS masterpiece with a real neat layout that is very challenging and fun to shoot.

You won't find many games that actually do. But Stars has one pop bumper, same as TNA.

As far as speed is concerned though, the key with Stars is to follow the guide in the instructions when installing the rubbers. It calls for it to use much smaller than normal, then stretched to the max. Do that and it is a very fast and snappy game.

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Let the numbers hit the floooooooooooooorr!!!

If he don't like the game, I'm sure there is somebody else out there that would like to buy it.

Maybe because it doesn't come with those cheap repetitive plastic ramps lots of hobbyists have become accustomed to? Or it doesn't play music from a band that 30 years ago sold out Madison Square Garden? I couldn't tell you...

True that. Nobody should force somebody to like something they don't.

But on the other hand, it's not doing anybody any good to go on and on with a Rarehero type rant about one particular game.

I gotta admit, at one time I might have been a little guilty of that myself.

Not the actual game as far as play is concerned, but the mind blowing numbness of how certain themes could be chosen for modern pinball games.

I bet when this one comes out, he will be all in.

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You guys have missed his whole sales pitch.