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8 Ball Deluxe LE Rebuild

By wolffcub

4 years ago


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#1 4 years ago

Friend of mine has a 8 ball just sitting and not working. Went over to see it and after fiddling a bit and a few fuses later she was running but the poor girl was worn out. Right flipper plunger was melted into the coil sleeve, plastics shattered everywhere, bulbs shattered due to missing plastic, rubbers worn out, and the play field missing a fair chunk of art.

The boards look good and the game does still play. The battery has not caused and board damage at all.

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#2 4 years ago

All the back glass glass is perfect and is still looking sharp even though it’s not in the first pictures.

#3 4 years ago

Took on the project with the idea to clean everything, replace what was only busted, fill in the missing play field art and re-clear.

Today was go time. Started by looking over the underside of the play field. Som very interesting things here. Solder conventions on coils were very bad and most only had a few wire strand holding them on. Securement bolts for items were missing on almost everything, and things were rattling everywhere.

Found a few re wired areas, and a few new wires of solid colour re ran thru the harness and just looped around random things.

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#4 4 years ago

Removed all I could today and started up the sonic cleaner and went to work.

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#5 4 years ago

About 3 hours later and ta-da! Starting to look better already.

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#6 4 years ago
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#7 4 years ago

Great start. Will be fun when it’s done. Man that PF is beat. I’m always amazed at how ground down they can get.

Dave

#8 4 years ago

I'm trading for one of these in a few days, had one years ago, love the game. Yours is the good version, the one I'm trading for is an LE too but with individual lamp sockets everywhere, some LE's had the lamp boards as shown above, which are better imo.

#9 4 years ago

I have some items from an eight ball deluxe LE that i recently sold ( schematics, sound roms, drop targets, 8 ball key fob, Bally brand new cap kit, and other stuff).
I would sell it cheaply as a package if you are interested.

#10 4 years ago
Quoted from Daditude:

I have some items from an eight ball deluxe LE that i recently sold ( schematics, sound roms, drop targets, 8 ball key fob, Bally brand new cap kit, and other stuff).
I would sell it cheaply as a package if you are interested.

Thanks for the offer. Im going to repaint the drops. I already did a order for new caps, skirts, posts, rubber, flipper rebuild kits and other stuff.

I am looking for a plastic kit.

#11 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

Thanks for the offer. Im going to repaint the drops. I already did a order for new caps, skirts, posts, rubber, flipper rebuild kits and other stuff.
I am looking for a plastic kit.

Check out the "trade your plastics" forum. There are a couple of guys I have bought from that have nearly endless supplies of pinball plastics.

#12 4 years ago

I just picked up an EBDLE last week and it has the under playfield lamp boards as well. Mine is #2468 so I'm assuming they switched over later in the run. I still hate 555 lamps but the boards are a bit of an improvement.

#13 4 years ago
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#14 4 years ago

Nice job.. Cleaned up well. What is this magic Sonic Cleaner you used.... >LOL.... Do tell ,, THX Nick.

#15 4 years ago
Quoted from NicToria:

Nice job.. Cleaned up well. What is this magic Sonic Cleaner you used.... >LOL.... Do tell ,, THX Nick.

I have a 6L sonic cleaner with a built in heater. Fill with water and use dish soap or just a little Spray Nine and clean for 15 min. Any electronic boards needing cleaned are cleaned in water and dish soap only then fully rinsed with rubbing alcohol.

Don's use simple green as i found it actually causes a haze on metal parts.

The spray 9 if used at full strength will actual remove paint it you let it sit overnight, so it actually makes a good thing to use if trying to refinish drops and other plastic you plan to repaint.

#16 4 years ago
Quoted from wolffcub:

I have a 6L sonic cleaner with a built in heater. Fill with water and use dish soap or just a little Spray Nine and clean for 15 min. Any electronic boards the need cleaning are only cleaned in water and dish soap, then fully rinsed with rubbing alcohol.
Don's use simple green as i found it actually causes a haze on metal parts.
The spray 9 if used at full strength will actual remove paint it you let it sit overnight, so it actually makes a good thing to use if trying to refinish drops and other plastic you plan to repaint.

#17 4 years ago

Just curious if anyone has the code for the gold paint on the le cabinet? Thanks so much in advance!

#18 4 years ago
Quoted from pinballplusMN:

code for the gold paint on the le cabinet

Check with HEP ?

1 week later
#19 4 years ago

And off we go ! Time to start cleaning.

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#20 4 years ago

Round 1 complete. Interesting finds upon closer inspection.

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#21 4 years ago

Following this thread can’t wait to see. I enjoyed the lectronemo thread.

#22 4 years ago

This go around will not be like the Sinbad or Lectronamo. Trying to keep the cost and time down.

#23 4 years ago

Removed the old pop Mylar with the “ I’m walking on sunshine” method and moved on to removing the left over adhesive. Bit of a flour malfunction in the process.

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#25 4 years ago

Found a few areas of concern. Wood filler was used prior and it was dust. These spots and others like it will get epoxy tomorrow.

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#26 4 years ago

After that moved on to trying to get that old cracked clear taken care of. It was bad in areas. I used some old 400 wet paper because I really needed it to be 573 grit. A simple check with the grit-o-meter and it was spot on. Gentle long strokes and constant checking ensured I never went too deep , I also did some sanding.

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#27 4 years ago

As you can see it went from cracked to a good even surface. Never even hit the colour layer once. Before and after pics.

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#28 4 years ago

The inserts need some love. Don’t want to try to re-clear over a old cracked surface that might be holding contaminated debris that will show thru later.

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#29 4 years ago

All inserts are hurting. Another set fixed up. All seem to be also to have hairline fractures all the way thru. No replacement this time but I’m thinking a cool dusting of translucent pigments over them will hide it all.

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#30 4 years ago

Shook the dust off and argued with myself on what direction to go with the colours.

Decided I would just use the opaque blue as is and not mixed to match the old blue. It’s a bit darker but after painting all the blue it will be the same all over the board. I started painting the left side blue areas as a test.

The whites on the field are yellowed something awful. I mixed up a custom ivory like a real cue ball. I will also use this colour on all the balls now.

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#31 4 years ago

Wow, a lot of good work being done there.

Though I am wondering if this wouldn't have been a great candidate for a hardtop. I know you wanted to keep the costs down, but your time is worth money too.

#32 4 years ago
Quoted from mbeardsley:

Wow, a lot of good work being done there.
Though I am wondering if this wouldn't have been a great candidate for a hardtop. I know you wanted to keep the costs down, but your time is worth money too.

If I knew how to properly touch up and airbrush playfields I imagine doing it would be part of the fun. Keep going OP, I have an LE myself and it’s a blast to play!

#33 4 years ago
Quoted from GorillaBiscuits:

If I knew how to properly touch up and airbrush playfields I imagine doing it would be part of the fun. Keep going OP, I have an LE myself and it’s a blast to play!

Yes, I've had my 8BD-LE for 35 years now. Bought it in Pinebrook, NJ from an arcade there in 1984. Still plays great, though the playfield could use some love.
I may do a hardtop on it someday.

It must be an "early" one, since it has individual playfield lights, not the light boards shown above.

#34 4 years ago

Following this with interest, just brought a 8 ball le myself, collecting it next weekend

#35 4 years ago

Areas of the field are completely missing as seen in the pics. My little trick for filling in the blanks seems to work just fine. First you need to doctor up a image of the area needing repairs, then print it out to scale.

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Next is to lay down some masking tape, lay the image and line it up. Next you need a material that transfers ink easily....... you guessed it! the Saturday Paper! The house for sale section is perfect as its loaded with ink. Place the ink side down and trace your top paper with a ball point pen. Lift up after and be amazed at your ability to do something that kids in kindergarten do!

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Next step is to erase history and pretend like nothing happened.

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#36 4 years ago

A little drawing to get the new painting lines correct.

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#37 4 years ago
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