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78 Bally Lost World Restore


By timab2000

4 months ago



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#151 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I was just looking at the back glass for my lost world some of the artwork and Things That You Don't See right off the bat unless you really start looking at it it's pretty amazing

Bally sold tons of the machine back in 78 because of that bg artwork - no one had seen anything like it previously. I think it was in an interview with Paul Faris where he mentions this. The 4 color process allowing them to reproduce paintings on backglasses really made their games stand out from others with the plain line art (although some very good artists like Dave Christensen certainly was a master of the line art).

Is the primer you are using supposed to seal the wood as well? I always thought sealer first followed by primer if they aren't one and the same.

#152 3 months ago
Quoted from slochar:

Bally sold tons of the machine back in 78 because of that bg artwork - no one had seen anything like it previously. I think it was in an interview with Paul Faris where he mentions this. The 4 color process allowing them to reproduce paintings on backglasses really made their games stand out from others with the plain line art (although some very good artists like Dave Christensen certainly was a master of the line art).
Is the primer you are using supposed to seal the wood as well? I always thought sealer first followed by primer if they aren't one and the same.

This was just the 1st coats of primer. I really wasn't expecting a lot of good coverage. It will get better with more coats.

Decided to solder the new rectifier board in I think I did okay with my solders they look pretty good we won't know for sure until the games together.

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#153 3 months ago

That looks good man,connections look solid,i bet it works

#154 3 months ago
Quoted from Tbpilot78:

That looks good man,connections look solid,i bet it works

Well I hope so. I bought a really nice soldering iron with different tips and adjustable temp settings. Really made a big difference.

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#155 3 months ago

Not suprised at all,i solder small stuff and repairs but til i get a nice setup like that i send my boards off, but i did tell the wife i really need a nice soldering station and will remind her at xmas . That was a smart buy on your part as having the right size tip,proper heat,etc is half the battle w soldering

#156 3 months ago

After resanding the cabinet today and multiple coats of primer, I think I finally got the cabinet looking how I want.

A lot of the wood grain that was showing through has now blended in pretty nice.
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I'll let it dry up real good then maybe tomorrow hit it all with some 400 Grit and then spray the yellow.

#157 3 months ago
Quoted from Tbpilot78:

Not suprised at all,i solder small stuff and repairs but til i get a nice setup like that i send my boards off, but i did tell the wife i really need a nice soldering station and will remind her at xmas . That was a smart buy on your part as having the right size tip,proper heat,etc is half the battle w soldering

I used to try soldering with one of these god-awful things it's okay for doing wires but fine board work not that I'm an expert at that it didn't work all that well.
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I'd rather have a nice tip like this

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#158 3 months ago

Yes sir,that woodgrain showing thru woulda bothered me too,everythings too sharp and neat for that.Imma try to find me a old bally or stern for my next pin as your works inspiring me to wanna do a early ss restoration,i was a carpenter for 4yrs or so with my father in laws crew and i miss that sometimes,yes those kinda precision tips are so needed in the tight areas

#159 3 months ago

Got a delivery for Marco today so new side rails have been put on.

Also was able to spray the back box yellow.

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#160 3 months ago

New flipper buttons versus old

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#161 3 months ago

Did the side rails come with the nails or did you have to source them separately? Looks awesome

#162 3 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

Did the side rails come with the nails or did you have to source them separately? Looks awesome

You have to get the nail separately I was able to get some from Marco a while back

#163 3 months ago

Lookin amazing man,was wondering if your gonna keep the lighting original 47's or going w led's?Im not baised about eighter just curious

#164 3 months ago

I'll go with 47s

#165 3 months ago

Nice! I probably would too

#166 3 months ago

Great work on this. This game should be beautiful when you're done. I too have a lost world. It was my first game and got me into the hobby. Some people love to hate this game, but I've had a lot of fun on mine and still love to play it.

#167 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I'll go with 47s

I have had a Lost World for about 4 years and was reluctant to change the incandescent bulbs to led’s. I just decided to change the backglass to 2 smd frosted warm white, and was surprised how well it looked. imo

#168 3 months ago
Quoted from squad8:

I have had a Lost World for about 4 years and was reluctant to change the incandescent bulbs to led’s. I just decided to change the backglass to 2 smd frosted warm white, and was surprised how well it looked. imo

I believe warm white is suppose to be close to the 47 look just less heat and power,a good way to update the pin but keep it on the classic lookin side of things

#169 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Well I hope so. I bought a really nice soldering iron with different tips and adjustable temp settings. Really made a big difference.[quoted image]

I have a Hakko soldering station with the adjustable temps, tip assortments etc. I bought couple years ago for board work, but I’ve never tried before, but I’m going to have to do the same thing with a new rectifier board. Care to explain what temps, solder type & technique worked for you?

#170 3 months ago
Quoted from Tbpilot78:

Lookin amazing man,was wondering if your gonna keep the lighting original 47's or going w led's?Im not baised about eighter just curious

Quoted from timab2000:

I'll go with 47s

Quoted from squad8:

I have had a Lost World for about 4 years and was reluctant to change the incandescent bulbs to led’s. I just decided to change the backglass to 2 smd frosted warm white, and was surprised how well it looked. imo

Quoted from Tbpilot78:

I believe warm white is suppose to be close to the 47 look just less heat and power,a good way to update the pin but keep it on the classic lookin side of things

I have a paragon that i was really struggling with lamps on. I like the look of incandescents on these earlier machines, but they burn so hot that they tear up the plastics.
I finally went with comet warm whites. They are very cool and they look fantastic! I wiah i had gone to them earlier.

#171 3 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

I have a paragon that i was really struggling with lamps on. I like the look of incandescents on these earlier machines, but they burn so hot that they tear up the plastics.
I finally went with comet warm whites. They are very cool and they look fantastic! I wiah i had gone to them earlier.

Cool,ill prob go the same route when i upgrade blackout's lights,funny i was just watching a video of paragon,would love to find one someday

#172 3 months ago
Quoted from Tbpilot78:

Cool,ill prob go the same route when i upgrade blackout's lights,funny i was just watching a video of paragon,would love to find one someday

It took me quite a while to find a decent one. People don't want to sell them often. I had to work on the guy i got mine from for months and months. He sold it reluctantly after some financial adjustments in his life.

#173 3 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

It took me quite a while to find a decent one. People don't want to sell them often. I had to work on the guy i got mine from for months and months. He sold it reluctantly after some financial adjustments in his life.

I coulda bagged a really nice one for 1600 a few weeks ago butttttt id just picked up robo about 2-3 weeks prior so just bad timing

#174 3 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

I have a Hakko soldering station with the adjustable temps, tip assortments etc. I bought couple years ago for board work, but I’ve never tried before, but I’m going to have to do the same thing with a new rectifier board. Care to explain what temps, solder type & technique worked for you?

As far as temperature I just have mine at 400 degrees. I don't know if that's the correct temperature but it melts the solder. I don't claim to be an expert at it. And then I use this solder.

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#175 3 months ago

Now that I got the yellow painted I'm going to start putting down the stencils first color is red.

However I noticed that the stencils have the labels maybe printed wrong.

I put the stencil on with the label that says paint this color first at the top so I don't put the stencil on upside down, but you can see in the pictures I don't think it's right. Might have to talk to Jeff pinball pimp about that.

The first picture is with the stencils having the label at the top. Something doesn't look right.
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This picture shows the one stencil turned around. This is how they should get laid down. The label is at the bottom now. The guys eyeballs and forehead wrinkles have to line up.

I'm glad I noticed this before I put anything on permanently. But then I could be totally overthinking everything.

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#176 3 months ago

Looking great! Lost World has always been one of my favorites. I have 18 classic Bally pins and hope to ad a few more.

#177 3 months ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Looking great! Lost World has always been one of my favorites. I have 18 classic Bally pins and hope to ad a few more.

Thanks I appreciate it yeah I think it's a fun game.

Stencil getting laid down and peeled back.

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#178 3 months ago

Cant wait to see the results

#179 3 months ago
Quoted from arcademojo:

Looking great! Lost World has always been one of my favorites. I have 18 classic Bally pins and hope to ad a few more.

Lucky cat

#180 3 months ago

Okay the paint has been sprayed.
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Can be pretty nerve-wracking peeling the stencil back

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#181 3 months ago

Okay well that turned out pretty nice lines are nice and crisp.
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I'm pretty happy with the results

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#182 3 months ago

I need to do sone touchups on my paragon. Just wondering, since these machines have VERY similar coloring... what brand of paint and colors are you using?

#183 3 months ago
Quoted from Daditude:

I need to do sone touchups on my paragon. Just wondering, since these machines have VERY similar coloring... what brand of paint and colors are you using?

Here you go

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#184 3 months ago

Left side done with red.

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#185 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Left side done with red.[quoted image]

Damn man that looks amazing,you have to be pleased so far

#186 3 months ago

Looks great so far. Have you ever attempted repainting a cabinet with the rustoleum paints in satin sheen instead of gloss? Might look more like a old factory paint job instead of a high sheen look? I've never found any photos of someone using satin paints. I'm curious how it would look. Hard to resist using those gloss paints.

#187 3 months ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

Looks great so far. Have you ever attempted repainting a cabinet with the rustoleum paints in satin sheen instead of gloss? Might look more like a old factory paint job instead of a high sheen look? I've never found any photos of someone using satin paints. I'm curious how it would look. Hard to resist using those gloss paints.

I did this one in satin Rustoleum:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/capt-fantastic-rebuild-begins

And this one...

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#188 3 months ago

Holy smokes that looks like one sharp xenon

#189 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

I did this one in satin Rustoleum:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/capt-fantastic-rebuild-begins
And this one...[quoted image]

Wow I had no idea you had so many restoration threads. You’ve done some excellent work! Since you’ve done both, do you prefer gloss or satin look? I imagine the gloss really can show the cabinet imperfections.

#190 3 months ago

I would rather use satin if I can get it in the color I want.

#191 3 months ago

Moving on to spraying the purple on the back box right side is done.
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And now the left side's done. I forgot to put a little piece of tape over the black X lineup mark on the 2nd stencils, this is what happens if they don't line up just perfectly. I'll be able to buff that little bit out you'll never know it was there.

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#192 3 months ago

Okay quick preview
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Why I didn't put the backglass end in the beginning who knows.

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#193 3 months ago

sry, but same word came in mind again : SEXY !

#194 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Okay quick preview
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Why I didn't put the backglass end in the beginning who knows.[quoted image]

I cant wait to totally restore one. Hopefully your getting some sleep. I would thinking about my project all night long. Good job.

#195 3 months ago

Omg!Gorgous!!!

#196 3 months ago

Just caught up with this thread and I applaud the choice of that purple, looks blinkin great.

Also, bonus points for using Gold Ball as a workbench, I do the the same as its nice and level.

#197 3 months ago
Quoted from astyy:

Just caught up with this thread and I applaud the choice of that purple, looks blinkin great.
Also, bonus points for using Gold Ball as a workbench, I do the the same as its nice and level.

Yeah Gold Ball may be going up for sale soon haven't decided yet. It's a fun game I just haven't decided yet what I want to do with it.

#198 3 months ago

Great work!

#199 3 months ago

I've replaced the glass in my scanner if your willing and able to scan that shiny new playfield?
PM me if your interested.

#200 3 months ago
Quoted from timab2000:

Okay: quick preview.

Wow. That cabinet has had more changes to it than President Trump's.

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