Lost World
Bally, 1978Quoted from HoakyPoaky:Curious how many cans of primer & paint to used to get the cabinet done. Looks awesome!
If I remember right I use 5 cans of primer because of some of that got sand it off. And two cans of yellow. One can of red one can of purple.
Ordered a part for the game on eBay my favorite Used Parts Warehouse. And this is how it came packaged. I guess finding a box was a little too much to ask.
Got to love some of the sellers on eBay.
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But despite the subpar Packaging the item came undamaged.
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Quoted from nitrojcrawf:It was a box...at one point. Lol
Yeah I guess that's one way to look at it.
Lower cabinet is starting to come together.
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Where do you paint? I try to paint outside and the wind and bugs screw me up. I try to paint in my garage and the over spray gets everywhere.
I usually build a room of sorts with plastic sheets, then I can’t park my car in the garage until the project is done
Quoted from mrm_4:Where do you paint?I try to paint outside and the wind screws me up. I try to paint in my garage and the over spray gets everywhere.
I usually build a room of sorts with plastic sheets, then I can’t park my car in the garage.
I paint in my garage and outside
In the garage I try to cover everything up with a bunch of old bed sheets for the over spray and put a big tarp on the floor.
Try to spray most the primer outside since it's not a big deal how it turns out because most if it gets sanded down anyway. But the color coats are done inside.
Quoted from timab2000:Well the cabinet is 98% done I forgot to buy new flipper buttons. But other than that it's completed.[quoted image][quoted image]
Looking great man! You gonna paint the coin box purple?
Quoted from mrm_4:Looking great man! You gonna paint the coin box purple?
That might look kind of cool I'll have to think about that.
Quoted from timab2000:Coin door is done. Not real happy with the front, used the original skin pretty beat up tried to straighten it the best I could looks okay for now.
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Could you share with us how you fixed/cleaned the coin door?
I am especially curious on the best way to remove rust and dents.
Quoted from Daditude:Could you share with us how you fixed/cleaned the coin door?
I am especially curious on the best way to remove rust and dents.
Well I'm kind of embarrassed to say but when I get the front door skin off I lay it on the concrete floor in my garage and I take a small ball peen hammer and I start to slowly hammer the dents out.
I can't get it looking like brand new but at least get it squared up again.
If the edges are bent and from somebody trying to pry into it I just take a pair of pliers and try to bend those back out. Trying not to cause any more damage.
As far as rust goes the front skin usually isn't too rusted at the back panel of it can be pretty nasty. On this build I just Scotch-Brite to get as of the crap off as I can and then I repainted that the same color as the legs.
Quoted from timab2000:Well I'm kind of embarrassed to say but when I get the front door skin off I lay it on the concrete floor in my garage and I take a small ball peen hammer and I start to slowly hammer the dents out.
I can't get it looking like brand new but at least get it squared up again.
If the edges are bent and from somebody trying to pry into it I just take a pair of pliers and try to bend those back out. Trying not to cause any more damage.
As far as rust goes the front skin usually isn't too rusted at the back panel of it can be pretty nasty. On this build I just Scotch-Brite to get as of the crap off as I can and then I repainted that the same color as the legs.
No reason to be embarrassed. It worked...and it looks fantastic!
Thank you for the info.
Starting work on the back box getting it cleaned out of all the boards.
Driver board is a Stern, it'll go up for sale. Mpu not bad shape, but it'll go up for sale to along with the light board. Anybody interested in any of those PM me maybe we work something out.
All the boards were working when I pull them the only problem I had with the game was the left slingshot would stop working after about 3 or 4 minutes into gameplay not sure what that was all about
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Cool, I'm about 45 min away from you.
Quoted from punkin:Got my lost world delivered last night and put it together toady. Playfield faded, repo backglass and restored cab (in purple).[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Nice looking game!
Quoted from Tbpilot78:Loving this,very informative and cant wait to see it done
Thanks going keep working on it. Like today... worked on backbox and have a lot to fix.
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It only took about a half hour to sand the back box. The cabinet took about an hour. That paint was really on there.
Using a chemical stripper I think would make a bigger mess wiping all of it off with towel or whatever. Don't really want to deal with that.
Quoted from Tbpilot78:This things gonna look new when your done with it,such a cool game as well,def on my wishlist
Thanks for the vote of confidence I appreciate it.
Quoted from punkin:Is there replacement playfields available for this title? It's the only thing letting mine down.
Not that I know of I was able to find an NOS Playfield for it online.
15641690330101668026299 (resized).jpgWhile I'm waiting for things to dry on my back box, I am looking at my rectifier board and it looks terrible.
But my new one came in the mail today which is cool. I have never soldered it in a rectifier board so this will be something new. I hope I don't screw it up.
15641688317591975116695 (resized).jpg1564168854174120320602 (resized).jpgQuoted from timab2000:Still working on the back box fixing all the bad spots. This one by the lock it was a pretty good chunk so I stuck a couple staples in there to give the epoxy something to hold onto.
Care to share your general process for the fiberglass epoxy? Do you staple thin aluminium sheets to create a new corner, place staples/screws & then pour the epoxy? Curious how long it takes to set.
Quoted from timab2000:I was able to find an NOS Playfield for it online.
Way cool!
Do you have a scanner you could use to scan that and to preserve a file for others to use on restores?
Quoted from Atari_Daze:Way cool!
Do you have a scanner you could use to scan that and to preserve a file for others to use on restores?
I don't have a scanner but if you know of a way or somewhere I could get it done I would certainly think about it
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:Care to share your general process for the fiberglass epoxy? Do you staple thin aluminium sheets to create a new corner, place staples/screws & then pour the epoxy? Curious how long it takes to set.
Well as crazy as it sounds I use 3M blue painter's tape. The fiberglass epoxy does not stick to the sticky side of the tape. It's flexible cheap easy to use and it works. I overfill it a little bit and then sand the corner into a nice sharp point. See picture.
If it's a pretty good gouge or chunk taken out I will put something in there to give the fiberglass epoxy something to hold onto the screw or staple as shown in the previous post.
Takes about an hour for the stuff to set up
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This repair has 2 Staples inside of
I have a busted one that just needs new glass in order to be right as rain, I'd be more than happy to send it to you to borrow, for the cause! How long until you need to populate that beauty?
Quoted from Atari_Daze:I have a busted one that just needs new glass in order to be right as rain, I'd be more than happy to send it to you to borrow, for the cause! How long until you need to populate that beauty?
Well it's going to be a good couple weeks before I get to the Playfield my wife and I are taking two week vacation middle of next month and then when I come back and first week of September I'm having surgery so I'll be out for a good month and a half. So unfortunately I probably won't get to the Playfield for a while.
Wow I would have never thought of using tape. If you say it works I will def try it. Sounds much easier than using aluminium sheets.
What about really small areas (like a half inch) where there is a small chip along an edge? Do you use the epoxy in such a small spot or do you use Bondo filler? I would think the bondo would be easier to manage & sand along an edge. The epoxy is just for larger areas like corners where more strength is needed right?
I'll almost done sanding the original paint so this is my next step, hopefully this weekend.
i'm starting to be jealous !!! (friendly of course)
this smell very nice already, keep on the good work 
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:Wow I would have never thought of using tape. If you say it works I will def try it. Sounds much easier than using aluminium sheets.
What about really small areas (like a half inch) where there is a small chip along an edge? Do you use the epoxy in such a small spot or do you use Bondo filler? I would think the bondo would be easier to manage & sand along an edge. The epoxy is just for larger areas like corners where more strength is needed right?
I'll almost done sanding the original paint so this is my next step, hopefully this weekend.
I use the fiberglass epoxy on pretty much everything. Occasionally I'll use some of this stuff, but it doesn't seem set up as hard as the epoxy. This filler I use mostly on flat areas to fill in wood grain areas.
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Here are some shots of some of the smaller areas have done with the fiberglass epoxy
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I have some hand sanding to do inside the cabinet that my sander won't get to but I'm about ready to start spraying primer maybe this weekend.
Ah ok that's exactly what i need to see with the edge work. I don't think my edges will look as nice as yours but we'll see. Thanks for the pics.
Well in all honesty I have to give most the credit to "vid1900".
He has a post somewhere here on the site about restoring cabinets and he used a lot of fiberglass epoxy on what he was doing, so I just took his lead and it's what I've been using it ever since so thanks to him for that.
I wish he would come back to the site. He was a great source of information for Restorations and just pinball in general. He is sorely missed
His threads are extremely informative & the gold standard of repairs. I just like ask other people what works for them as well. I love what you’re doing in this thread
Quoted from Tbpilot78:Agreed,ive learned alot about williams system 6 games and how to take care of pf's from that guy,wonder if he passed on?
He is still alive, just not here anymore.
Quoted from Tbpilot78:Well at least hes ok and may come back around, paragon is another great title,damn those bg's are just amazing on alotta the early ss ballys
I was just looking at the back glass for my lost world some of the artwork and Things That You Don't See right off the bat unless you really start looking at it it's pretty amazing
I got the first coats of primer on the back box today. Still lots of work ahead before the color goes on. You don't realize what you missed until you start getting some primer on it.
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Things like this. Wood is kind of a pain in the ass to paint. The grain shows through it soaks up the paint in some spots but not others. But we'll get that all straightened out before the color goes on
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