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I’ve got everything set up pretty well on this game now after getting it home a few weeks ago. One issue is still haunting me however.... occasionally after getting a ball locked into Odin or Wotan and releasing a ball into multiball if I drain a ball and still have the other in play and happen to knock one of the 2 balls back into the Odin or Wotan after the first one has drained, instead of releasing a new ball the machine advances to the next ball☹️. This is my first EM in my sea of solid states. Where should I look to correct this issue?
I did forget to mention that the Odin and Wotan locks work well and release correctly with the yellow mushroom switches activating them and the switches in the locks themselves seem to register fine as well so that guess I’m looking into one of the many many relays in the cabinet to correct at this point I just would like a little guidance if I may ask. I had issues with the trough at one point and cleaned it up as well as adjusted all 3 switches. I also cleaned and checked gaps on the normally opened and closed contacts on the relays in the cab as well or so I thought?
Crap! Well that stinks.... thank you for the info though much appreciated. I’m guessing there isn’t a workaround other than to wait and listen for the score motor to reload? I have so many other pins on at the same time I’ll be lucky if I can hear it. You would think they would have used an interlocking relay or something similar to 4 million bc in order to avoid that annoyance. It would be a great tournament pin if that could be fixed.
Has anyone on here rebuilt the spinner motor and or gear box? I’m having issues with it spinning slowly and humming at the moment. Any tips would be greatly appreciated thanks in advance!
Quoted from chas10e:http://www.pinrepair.com/em/index3.htm#motor
scroll down to "Lubricating a Score Motor."
It's setup the same as the spinning disc
You have to remove the motor from the frame to locate the "needle bearing" felt pad ... clean but do NOT lubricate the brass gears
Thank you for the direction. I think I need more pics or something. I need to see what I’m taking apart. I’m a visual learner, the text I can read a hundred times, but without seeing, it just doesn’t always make sense to me. Any other examples or pics?
Perfect and thank you very much I oiled the felt pad on both sides Of the motor case and cleaned the gearbox up with alcohol and q tips and she runs like a dream and so quiet now
Fixed the motor last night. Turned the game on today and I’m back to the same old crap! Motor is barley working again wtf..... lubed and cleaned. I guess I have to tear apart the motor and gearbox what a pita!
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I’ll take more pics when I get a chance to take it apart this week. It does not spin freely when I try to spin it there is quite a bit of resistant force. 56v ac at the motor.
Total removal and cleaning of the motor and gear box. I removed one flange off of each of the 4 rivets, so I could re-install them to keep the gearbox perfectly aligned as well as adding a 2” #4/40 screw, washer, lock washer and nut so it stays together as Intended. I’m happy to report everything is now aligned, cleaned, greased, oiled, quiet and smooth as butter!
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Oiled the small felt pad pin hole on both sides directly over the motor gear pin. I Only greased (super lube synthetic) the gear pin ends directly at the base of the spinning disc and the gear pin ends 1st in line beside the one directly under the spinning disc. The other gear pin ends are connected to the felt tip pad so I left them to 3 in 1 oil only at the pad.
Quoted from Joydivision:Got it, that confirms as well the brass cogs themselves run dry no oil/grease. Great, Thanks.
I could't remove the spinning disc from the shaft last time I tried. I removed the two locking bolts/screws but it was still stuck on. Any tips to remove the disc form the shaft?
Yes those locking bolts slightly distort the shaft as they press into it. Physics is your friend. I rested a flathead screw driver at an angle and twisted it slowly on one side the again to the other side of the shaft from the plate to the spinner shaft seating. It took a while to pull up. Then I grabbed a small open ended wrench and did the same thing. You may need to use a few stacked wrenches as you slowly pull it off. Then you will need a very fine file to remove the distortion that the set screws made so you can remove the gear from the frame.
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