(Topic ID: 261865)

68 Williams Cabaret w/ unresponsive PF

By fotoboy

2 years ago


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#1 2 years ago

ok, long story short...
Machine was working fine, starting fine scoring fine, playing fine (except one little issue). I removed the PF for 5 minutes to get a closer look at the coin unit, when I replaced it, this is how it came back to life...

>> I have checked the fuses
>> I have checked the Jones plugs (on the PF)
>> I manually added scores, and manually game ended, then it clears and kicks out the ball, but otherwise the PF is unresponsive
>> Tilt switch is open.

I know its something simple... but if I dont find it today I have to put it away for a week to park the car in the garage (pending snow storm)...

#2 2 years ago

These 3 switches can interrupt power to the playfield. Start by checking them.

For a switch to work 3 things are necessary:
1) When open, there should be a small space between the contact points (duh)
2) When closing, the long blade's contact point should push the short blade's contact point enough to move the short blade
3) The contact points should be clean, which they usually will be if #2 is happening

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#3 2 years ago

So, I am assuming that I should be looking at the relays?

Are lights to the PF different circuit?

thx

#4 2 years ago
Quoted from fotoboy:

So, I am assuming that I should be looking at the relays?

Actually the switches on the relays. See below.

Quoted from fotoboy:

Are lights to the PF different circuit?

Yes.
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#5 2 years ago

I have looked at those, and they seemed right, but I will double check them.

Now I get it,,, switch on relay.

seems to be getting closer now.
thanks

#6 2 years ago

All of those seem to be as they are suppose to be...

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#7 2 years ago
Quoted from fotoboy:

All of those seem to be as they are suppose to be...

Static pictures don't tell the story.

Quoted from HowardR:

For a switch to work 3 things are necessary:
1) When open, there should be a small space between the contact points (duh)
2) When closing, the long blade's contact point should push the short blade's contact point enough to move the short blade
3) The contact points should be clean, which they usually will be if #2 is happening

#8 2 years ago

One at a time jumper the switches that Howard highlighted in red. When it starts working, you've found your switch or relay that is causing your problem.

#9 2 years ago

edednedy... thanks, with that tidbit of info I was able to finally isolate the odd poblem... It seems that the bracket that holds the relay nylon piece had popped off rendering it relatively useless but not entirely useless looking... cool. Now onward to my original problems... Think ill start another thread for that! Thanks yall.

2 weeks later
#10 2 years ago

Just in case anybody is still looking at this, got the problem solved, then removed PF again (what was I thinking?) now similar problem, but not same cause. Nothing happens when I hit restart button. Otherwise machine is totally alive... sigh.

Any ideas?

#11 2 years ago

This happened a second time when I removed the PF... I cleaned the Jones plugs well and problem SEEMS to be resolved.

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