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61 showboat did I screw up?

By Bull

7 years ago


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#1 7 years ago

I acquired a Showboat almost a year ago and got it operational thanks to a lot of help from you all. All is working play field
cleaned up decent.

My original intent was to keep the nostalgia of the cabinet being somewhat beat and scratched, however the coin door and legs were bothering me being somewhat rusted.

I started cleaning them up and although it to late should I have left them as is to go with the "patina" of the machine?

Pic isn't great but I will post. Left is not done at all. Just started on right side. Went from almost all dirt/rust to almost a mirror finish in spots.

Still a long way to go but getting there.

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#2 7 years ago

Nothing irks me more than rusted coin doors and rusty legs. In my opinion, clean, shiny legs and coin doors make an old machine much better even if you don't repaint the cabinet.

#3 7 years ago

Thanks Ken! I don't have the skills to completely repaint the cabinet and my wife likes the well used look however I plan on cleaning up the legs and taking trim out and cleaning it up also.

Was just worried nice shiny legs and the rest of the cleaned up metal would look odd on an older well used machine.

#4 7 years ago

I know several local collectors who, even though their machines have beat up cabinets, have either restored the coin door (or bought a new one) or cleaned the legs (or bought new ones). Those collectors don't know how to restore the cabinet, so they do the best they can with what they know how to do. In my opinion, even a beat up machine looks so much better with a new coin door and a set of new legs. Looks like somebody cares about the machine.

#5 7 years ago

I'm up in the air about parting mine out because of a broken BG. If you want to convince me, my door is really nice, and I just bought that new lockdown bar from PBR. I know I could get a repro glass from BGresto. Decisions, decisions...

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#6 7 years ago

No way you should part that game out. Get a backglass for it from BG Resto, or beat the bushes for a decent used one.

#7 7 years ago
Quoted from Bull:

I acquired a Showboat almost a year ago and got it operational thanks to a lot of help from you all. All is working play field
cleaned up decent.
My original intent was to keep the nostalgia of the cabinet being somewhat beat and scratched, however the coin door and legs were bothering me being somewhat rusted.
I started cleaning them up and although it to late should I have left them as is to go with the "patina" of the machine?
Pic isn't great but I will post. Left is not done at all. Just started on right side. Went from almost all dirt/rust to almost a mirror finish in spots.
Still a long way to go but getting there.

Pull the door & give it a bath in Evaporust. It really works!

2 weeks later
#8 7 years ago

I'd love a Showboat! I would modify so that right flipper button controls 1st and 3rd flipper and left controls 2nd and 4th. Can't see playing it any other way.

#9 7 years ago

Been a busy week so sorry for the late replays.

Mike don't part out your Showboat if it is mostly complete except for the backglass, I am sure someone would take it off your hands. I gues I am a little sentimental though because it was my first machine, but it was the one that got me back into the hobby. Maybe offer it up to someone for a good deal and get someone else back into pinball?

Ultimately if you do part it I would like to talk. I need a few small parts for min to get it looking good. If you were not 3000 miles away I would come get yours and make a really nice one out of two.

Dasvis, thanks for the tip on the Evaporust! Was amazed how it worked. I just did the coin return chute on my

showboat and it almost looks new again! Can't wait to see if the legs will come out as good.

Electocurt, as for modifying the flippers, I can see why people do it but for now it is staying "stock" I think I kinda adds a little challenge to the game. It does make you fell like a 10 year old just learning to play for the first time.

And Ken thanks for the comments. I am FAR from a wood worker or painter so I thought a decent solid cabinet is better than me hacking it up and trying to repaint it. Maybe the next generation to get the machine can do it.

Thanks for all of the help everyone!

#10 7 years ago

Hi
I agree with electrocute (post-8) to do the mentioned modification. I once helped on a "A-Go-Go", http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=27 (read notes) - I suggested to do such an modification (as in post-8). The man also did not want. Greetings Rolf

#11 7 years ago

Wow, no real update to the thread other than I just reread my last message it it was filled with horrible grammar.

Sorry I was incredibly tired and also on my iPhone so didn't have a real keyboard!

However a quick befor and after for the return coin chute from a few hours in the Evaporust.

Thanks again for any input/help!

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#12 7 years ago
Quoted from Bull:

Wow, no real update to the thread other than I just reread my last message it it was filled with horrible grammar.
Sorry I was incredibly tired and also on my iPhone so didn't have a real keyboard!
However a quick befor and after for the return coin chute from a few hours in the Evaporust.
Thanks again for any input/help!

Evaporust is the bomb.
Now hit it with some chrome polish.

#13 7 years ago

Going to soak it for a few more hours and hit it with some polish. Will do a final update soon.

#14 7 years ago
Quoted from Electrocute:

I'd love a Showboat! I would modify so that right flipper button controls 1st and 3rd flipper and left controls 2nd and 4th. Can't see playing it any other way.

I agree for performance. Unfortunately, this would be a rather big mod as each pair of flippers are linked together mechanically, using 1 flipper coil.

I would add 2 more flipper coils for a total of 4, (hoping there's room). It would take several added parts, (coil housings, shaft linkage, EOS switches and housings, etc), but the game really does need the strength of separate flipper coils. There's just no power to send the ball up top, and it's a nice open playfield which needs the strength. I think the game turned out to be a dog in its day due to the original config.

Mike..............I think you should try and keep your game intact. It's a nice example, and there have been 2 runs of the glass. There should be a good one laying around somewhere.

#15 7 years ago

I agree with Boatcat. I see the flipper modifications mention a lot, but it looks like quite a bit of work, which I am fine with, but still enjoying the anomaly of the game!

Also a question does anyone know why this would have been done on Showboat?

Wires were soldered together but not to the light circuit for the passive bumper?

They are just touching. Weird!

Maybe hard to see, let me know.

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#16 7 years ago
Quoted from Bull:

Also a question does anyone know why this would have been done on Showboat?
Wires were soldered together but not to the light circuit for the passive bumper?
They are just touching. Weird!
Maybe hard to see, let me know.

They should be soldered to the lamp socket leads. Someone before you got lazy.

#17 7 years ago

Just keep scrubbing, bro! Gonna shine just great!

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