I have. Put a mini review/comparison in the main thread.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/munsters-is-coming/page/109#post-4792286

Nice review, as I respect your input (fellow BM66 pinhead)...I sadly drained that thread, as it was just too cluttered, too early....hoping the "1313 Mockingbird" Club thread gets some traction once games start to drop.

I'm in (and paid in full) on LE, actually, love Stewie's mini PF on FGY, so hoping this combo works for me, I don't mind the stop and go, and just hoping for a fun pin....thanks again....mark

Avengers, maybe Aerosmith, GOTG, Mustang all seem to have fewer Premiums than LE.

Only Stern knows for certain regarding their production numbers, but it’s possible that Mustang, Avengers, and GOT premium models were produced less then the LE models.

IIRC, Pros came about as ops complained that cheap mechs and bling and added Kenner toys screwed down to bumpercaps was not worth the added $$$ and demanded cheaper games. Premiums became the trim level of the fickle collector, and LE’s became the plaything of the rich and famous, or at least just the rich with deep pockets and those selling plasma to fund their addiction. The “artwork is whats different” thinking between Premium and LE is kind of like a artificial, no cost way of pushing demand of the color LE up and to capitalize fully they needed the extra 100 units. I’ve been asking non pinheads about “limited” and how they would react if a company that they bought from did this. The only pushback came from people buying art, were they said there are real legal definitions to “limited” and how the word is applied.

Hmmm wonder where I fit in now...I'm neither rich or famous...and I give my plasma for free.

No

No matter how people spin it, Stern stating LE and numbers is a marketing strategy to increase perceived value. When you state a specific number that is intent. Is there a difference? Some. Is there THAT much difference with a 100? Questionable. With anything 'collectable' it really depends on demand. There is certainly way more value with a lesser number for something that is in demand. Stern are not saying "hey we'll make more, so we'll lower the price". Thus it comes off as disingenuous and a money grab. The ones saying it makes no difference don't care now, but you can bet if they ever go to sell and can't get what they want out of the game, they will complain then. The pinball resale world is strong right now, but it won't always be. Basically, I see both sides of this, and we're all just going to have to wait and see how it actually impacts things if at all. People who really want the game are going to buy it either way.

I think it should be pretty clear, but in case stating the obvious helps, Stern doesn't care BECAUSE you (the buyers) don't care. I don't care as I am not a NIB buyer for this game (or any other game yet ; I do appreciate you guys feeding me used games now and then though...).

This feels true; if someone took the time to type out ever modern Stern, there are a lot of great games, and some games that are just "eh". Some of the "less good" games are way more rare than the greats (CSI/24 vs. LoTR/SW). If I only had one slot to fill in my collection I would get the better game over the "poor but rare game" and I have a 9 game collection....

And 100% agree that 500 is not really that limited in this market...

Nice........I (and many others that buy LE's on occasion) fall into none of those categories.....

The number will always be 'limited' by demand. I think Addams Family is a very good example. That has the highest run, yet look at the prices still to this day. It is because of the high demand.

Then you have the very rare games that are high priced simply because there's only a handful of them. The problem is MOST people haven't even played those games to know if they want it or if they are even fun. It is a completely different collectability mindset.

That is why the jury is still out on Munsters.

There are always caveats to any statement. That being said, he's not far off. I doubt the 85% are buying NiB pins on any regular basis.

This pic was from another thread.

But I want to throw out this hypothetical situation I was just thinking about.

What if 2 LE game were found to have the same duplicate number plate installed. Could stern sneak out a couple extra games this way? What’s the chances anyone would even find out; send them to different parts of the world. Stern doesn’t share serial numbers, who would ever know, unless the two owners just happened to cross paths.

If one duplicate plate was ever found would you still have faith in the whole LE numbering scheme?

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That " hypothetical", if intentional, is fraud. Do you really think Stern needs the extra $$$ of LE over Pro to go down that road?

No caveat to blanket, unkind, false statements like that. Sick of this crap...If you want the " jury to be out" on the game itself, so be it.

But to once again ( not you directly, but in every thread that turns this way) start quantifying the people that decide to buy or not is horseshit.

Personal opinions are welcomed and will always differ, but to provide "wisdom/insight" directed at a global audience? Insulting to the people that buy and don't buy these games .

Give your opinion on whether you would buy/ like a game or not, but don't speak for anyone else...No one has any idea or metric

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