Here’s 4 of the 455s I mentioned above in my Lucky Hand. Not bad at all.

Thank you for posting that.
Terry.

I bought a handful of fast Comet blinker LEDs to play around with and they stop being totally in sync on/off after about 15-20 seconds. But even after they have drifted apart, and lacking randomness of a 455, whenever you glance at them after that they are always in one noticeable pattern or another. But yeah mixing in slow ones would help.

I noticed a couple of the 455s behind my Black Hole's disc were burned out, and I only had a handful of used ones (most of them with some blackening) so I ordered a few boxes of new ones (the Chinese type I guess). They do blink slower than the old ones. But the filaments also go on and off much more softly, not so instantly as the old ones so oddly enough they have an even more pronounced incandescent quality. They must have a thicker filament or something. The slower speed doesn't bother me as long as I get the randomness.

Bought a couple boxes of these after seeing Ronnie’s video.

https://www.memotronics.com/box-of-10-455-blinking-lamp-bulb-flashing-lightbulbs-6-5v-3-25w-0-5a/

Jump to 18 minutes to see the explanation and demo.

If you read PBL's message above, they're all coming from the same factory. This 'memotronics' isn't the ones actally makin' them, AFAIK.

Yeah, but they're also not charging $18 for something that could easily be shipped USPS.

Memotronics is $2/box more than PBL, but with a $12 differential in shipping, you'd have to get 60 bulbs (6 boxes) just to break even ordering from PBL instead of Memotronics.

I don't have anything against PBL, they're a reputable dealer of course. But it's annoying that their shipping costs are so high, and I'm happy to reward other companies who still have a slow and cheap option available for when I don't have enough stuff to buy to hide the high shipping cost from the cost-conscious part of my brain.

Shipping was $4.88 they’ll be here in 3 days

case closed..........if you want them and need them, you get them ......don't be getto fabulous

Pinball Life shipping

Not seeing a $4.88 option anywhere there.

Ok
I didn’t realize this was going to be a controversial post. Just sharing that I bought the lights.

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No controversy. I wasn't doubting you got the shipping you did. Just pointing out that whatever option you used, is not available to all customers. For whatever reason.

I'm happy for you that you can get reasonable shipping. Your experience doesn't change that of those of us who can't.

You’re looking on PBL I bought these from https://www.memotronics.com/box-of-10-455-blinking-lamp-bulb-flashing-lightbulbs-6-5v-3-25w-0-5a/

Ah. Your original post, which appeared to respond to mine complaining about PBL's shipping, appeared to be intended to refute my complaint. Looks like I misunderstood. Thanks for the clarification.

I guess I could've looked more closely at your screenshot, but by then my brain already was fixed in the idea that you'd ordered from PBL. Sorry about that.

Stumbled onto a nice lot of original 455 boxes from Norelco after I had bought a couple boxes from PBR. Here is a video I took of the difference if anyone cares to see.

Did you watch the video I posted? Ronnie compares them to the Eiko version.
PBR behaves the same in the video above as the ones Ronnie compares to.
Blink once wait 5 seconds blink once wait 5 seconds.

The ones from memotronics blink wait 2 seconds, blink wait 2 seconds. Like the original shown in the video above also. There’s a different behavior between these memotronics and other new designs.

Yeah I did - and it's not 5 seconds. He's "rounding up". While the 'new' ones do look faster, it's not 5 vs 2 seconds.

Didn't say ANYTHING in my post about shipping. Just that 'memotronics' isn't the one making them. Claiming "these are 'memotronics' new bulbs" is rather misleading.

Oh my god who gives a crap about the exact time. There’s clearly a difference. You guys will literally argue about anything. You got 2 videos showing different blink rates and memotronics behave exactly how the originals behave based on 2 videos.

I'm not even sure why you brought it up. Or why pete_d thought I somehow was talking about shipping.
My point was that this 'memotronics' place isn't the one making them. Like PBL, they're all coming from the same place.

See?

That's all I said.

all you have to do to get the $4.88 shipping is to create an account ....I just did and got 2 boxes for the same price

Yeah there was some confusion on the shipping
Pete was thinking that the $4.88 was offered by PBL
I was just stating that I got the bulbs shipped for that from memotronics
Until this recent back and forth I didn’t realize that PBL only ships UPS at $18. Ooooof

Coyote was simply stating that memotronics doesn’t make the bulbs which I took as some kind of dig on me from buying them instead of PBL but I was trying to prove that there’s a difference between the 2 from memotronics and PBL. Which was an attempt to explain that it doesn’t matter where they are made the bulbs are clearly behaving different. Which apparently wasn’t in debate.

This whole last bunch of 20 posts or so have been just a shit show of misunderstandings. Wtf happened?

I was just trying to show I found some sweet 455s

I stuck a whole box of 10 of the memotronics ones in my BH backbox and timed them by videoing them for 20 seconds, yup, averaged out to 4.25 blinks in 10 seconds, slightly slower than once every 2 seconds. But that included two bulbs that blinked every 4 or 5 seconds. So you could get a slower one here or there.

However the old GE ones I still have behind the disc look to blink noticeably faster than every two seconds, and the on/off is very quick. More of a flash than a blink. And they can speed up/slow down like crazy.

I give these memtronics ones a big thumbs up though.

I got 2 pop bumper brackets for my Capt. Fantastic from PBL $9.90 for both but Fed Ex shipping was $19.69 but they were the only people that had them, did i care how much shipping was,NO,I needed them and i got them...MY point was and still is,is that people will drop $10-15K to hit a silver ball around or they say they do and complain about a few dollars about shipping,shipping has been going up up up thats just the way it is........

LED's turn on & off too fast to look correct in an EM or SS pin, that's my opinion, yours may vary.

I didn't say you did. I was just pointing out that there's a material difference between PBL and the Memotronics site, making it worth getting it there, even if they do all come from the same factory.

Implying that I made that claim, or that I made any sort of claim that you said anything about shipping is also misleading. I did neither.

Maybe don't walk around with that big chip on your shoulder. It's making you read things that aren't there.

I don't think it's their fast speed, not the 'fast' ones anyway. A lot of the old GE 455s blinked faster than they do. Their drawback is their never-varying timing.

However I put a fast blink LED in the Game Over and Shoot Again lamps on an old SS's backglass, which otherwise are lit solid. Definitely 'works' for that kind of thing on an SS game, they look like they are being flashed by the software and grabs your attention. A 455 would blink too but the randomness would look dumb in this case.

I just like the quick on/off of the older GE or Westinghouse lamps. Some do blink faster than others, but it’s just the super fast on/off I like with no fade effect that I like. Only bad thing is some of these older lamps can get red hot when they blink quickly or stay on more than off, yet I’ve not had any issues with paint flaking on my games and use them. Just experiment and find what rate you like best, there is an art to these lights in the correct areas of the backglass.

if anyone is looking, they're 8.95 now. dang.