Abra Ca Dabra
Gottlieb, 1975Started a new project and this time im going for an EM. Figured i have a modern DMD (TAF) a solid state (FP) now an Electro mechanical just to cover all the bases. First person to guess what machine this is gets some impressive bragging rights
Obviously it is a Gottlieb.
Sweet. So not to nitpick, but since you're obviously going for high accuracy that lockdown bar isn't correct. Actually side rails are wrong too. Maybe they're just holdovers from Addams still. I have an Abra Ca Dabra sitting next to me if you need any reference pics.
Quoted from Aurich:Maybe they're just holdovers from Addams still
Yea actually this is the old Firepower. I have to model a new coin door, flippers and pop caps too. Backbox should be a breeze but i have no idea what the dimensions are. Maybe if you get some time you could take the basic measurements for me? That would rule
This will sound a bit weird, but I love how the GI tends to wash out the colors on the plastics.
It's what makes it feel 'real' and 'warm' to me, instead of something like a video game where many artists would try to enhance the colors at the sacrifice of realism.
Quoted from DirtFlipper:Lose the Williams flippers though!
Haha yea they are left over from the previous model and i have yet to make the Gottlieb ones. Still waiting for the Marco order to come in with them. Should be done with this model by the end of the week.
If and when they release VP 10 i plan on doing some pre-rendered pins on it with these models for sure! I can't wait to try it and hope it will be as good as i think. They're new physics engine is pretty good and turning texture maps on and off is all doable. I mean for vp guys this would be epic if done right.
Very cool work.
Any chance of starting a thread and doing a explanation of how you are doing this. I draw 3D in solidworks but just applying textures, not art and lighting and multiple reflections from all angles.
Have you contacted pinball arcade and see if they can employ you to do games on commission as it beats there versions of art and realism.
awesome work
Thanks man, i use 3dsmax for this, i don't know about doing a tutorial thread. Not sure there would be much interest. I actually did send Farsite studios a resume' awhile ago with no response one way or another. Anyway, thanks for the props. Always nice to hear
Started on the cabinet art. Slow process of vectoring it. This is just a preview for map placement. Coin door is still the 1980's Williams. Don't have one to model yet so i would be guessing at best. Anyone know the diameter of a Gottlieb score real? And if anybody could give me a couple dimensions of the back box too that would rule.
Quoted from 3rdaxis:And if anybody could give me a couple dimensions of the back box too that would rule.
Sorry man, spaced on helping you. Here you go:
So the red block that holds up the backbox is 20 ⅜" wide, and 8" deep, and 2" tall.
The back box is 8 ⅞" deep, 21 ½" wide at the bottom of the wedge, and 25 ⅞" at the top. It's 25 ¾" tall.
Backglass opening is 19 ⅜" wide. It's 3" from the bottom of the backbox to the bottom of the opening. It's 21 ½" tall.
Hope that helps!
Quoted from 3rdaxis:If and when they release VP 10 i plan on doing some pre-rendered pins on it with these models for sure! I can't wait to try it and hope it will be as good as i think. They're new physics engine is pretty good and turning texture maps on and off is all doable. I mean for vp guys this would be epic if done right.
A similar method was done with Tippitos Chrome T2, but that was all emreels from what I can remember and was a painstaking process. Definitely more easier to achieve these days with primitive imports.
Quoted from orangestorm87:So how does one go about playing this?!
This will be a pre-rendered playable game on VP. Sort of like Timeshock it will be a fixed camera position angled for virtual pinball machines.
Thanks Aurich, i appreciate the effort. I will double check what i created "winging it" But i think i nailed it. Just a couple moore maps to makes and this baby is done, out the door.
Quoted from horseypin:A similar method was done with Tippitos Chrome T2, but that was all emreels from what I can remember and was a painstaking process. Definitely more easier to achieve these days with primitive imports.
I've played that table and it does look good but oh my god what an epic overtaking that must have been. I think he used all real pictures?
Quoted from 3rdaxis:So it looks like VP 10 was released today, Going to try and make a table based on these renders either this table or Firepower. Cant wait to try!
Now that would just be plain awesome. Though I still want the actual machine. Still ticked I was basically pinbroke the day one showed up for under 500.
Quoted from 3rdaxis:So it looks like VP 10 was released today, Going to try and make a table based on these renders either this table or Firepower. Cant wait to try!
Man, way out of the virtual scene, didn't know there was a VP 10 even coming.
I may do another EM since i am in the mode but most importantly is it has to be a game popular enough for their to be plenty of images for reference, especially the playfield. That was the main reason for me picking Abra Ca Dabra, Firepower and The Addams Family.
Quoted from 3rdaxis:I may do another EM since i am in the mode but most importantly is it has to be a game popular enough for their to be plenty of images for reference, especially the playfield. That was the main reason for me picking Abra Ca Dabra, Firepower and The Addams Family.
we can find pictures... that is NO problem... 
this looks to be a rather cool project... i have NO knowledge of VP, but if someone starts modeling em games in 3d, i just might be convinced to build a virtual cabinet...
Better start building They just released Ver10.0 of Visual Pinball and its impressive. Yes that is the most important part for me to model any pinball machine. I don't have it like that where i can buy a machine and tear it down to scan in the playfield. That would be insane. So i am limited by what ever images i can find on-line like this playfield image i use for Abra Ca Dabra. Which is just barely good enough.
Quoted from 3rdaxis:Better start building
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oh great, now i gotta go hunt down topics on how to build one...
for pictures, dimensions, etc.... if you make a post in the "em hangout" asking for pictures of specific machines, i think you'll be able to get whatever you need for whatever machine you want... us "em guys" are pretty helpful folks, even if some of us are a bit grumpy at times...
Finally finished!! On to the next...
http://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/3d-pinball-machine-model/893259
I know the coin door is not correct but i will fix this when i have one to measure. I think everything else is pretty much spot on. The next machine will either be another EM or i may do a wood rail to cover all basic generations of pinball
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