Oh no! What will my friends and family think of me when they see this $300 mini-cabinet next to my real arcade cabinets, cabarets, and pinballs?!?!! I'm going to look like such a fool!! Not.

This is a bit of a problem. Not only is he correct that there will be more lag than an original system, it's common knowledge and universally accepted. Who here is able to dispute it properly? "You haven't played it yet" isn't nearly a good enough argument. It isn't up to people that think the Earth is a sphere to prove it, it's up to the outliers that think it's flat to prove it. With that said even under the extremely unlikely scenario that they are able to get frame accurate inputs on the emulation side of things, a simple spec sheet of the panel alone (just the panel... one component of many) will show you that yes there is going to irrefutably be lag introduced in the system by the hardware used in these vs an original system. Unless anyone here can show proof or even introduce reasonable doubt that they have devised a system which not only matches the inputs frame accurately, but also reduced it past that point it in order to compensate to perfectly matches the lag introduced by the panel..... Then yes it will introduce lag.

Yes I fully understand people here don't care. The point remains, he is correct. It's almost not even worth debating but if any of you feel up to it then have at it.

Won't people just adjust to said lag?

Yes, a lot of people are very adaptable to lag within reason (a couple of frames). It affects some people a lot more than others. My guess is the games aren't going to be so far out that the general public has a huge problem with the "lag" feeling or else they simply wouldn't release it because nobody would buy it. I think it's quite likely the case that people familiar with the games or familiar with gaming in general will notice. Lag is especially problematic on fighting games. With those games it doesn't just come down to the fact that you move the joystick and your character moves slightly later, it comes with the problem of inputs not catching on the correct frame and not executing combo moves. To demonstrate how this could be a problem check out the first few seconds of this video:

Now in the video if you notice the characters are essentially moving the same. By that I mean it isn't as is one character moves and then a second later the other moves. The more obvious problem though is that the input isn't be read correctly (specifically 5 seconds in) and is skipping the input on the frame that is needed to properly execute the fireball throw. Hopefully that gives a bit of an insight as to why even if you adapt to moving slightly later because of lag the game won't, and the gameplay will suffer because of it. Does that make sense? It has to do with how inputs are handled in the game not necessarily just the human component of hand eye coordination. We are talking about fractions of a second to allow the input to catch within the frame tolerance. In the video everything is synced up, the players are both moving the same, but one system is able to read the input correctly and execute the command and the one with lag is not. That is the game changer. It isn't that it only affects better players, just that it will stand out a lot more.

I thought as far as the CGC remakes are concerned, that whole “lag” theory was completely debunked, was it not? I stopped reading that thread, so maybe it swung back the other way.

Yes it was totally debunked. The remakes have the same if not even slightly less lag than the originals.

Wonder if you hack a mini fridge into one of these like they are doing with the new namco pixel bash machines.

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That’s actually a decent use of that space. Haha.

Has anyone seen a definitive preorder date for the Pacman cab? I've been browsing the YouTube channels, but not a lot of useful info.

That mini fridge + drink holder is arcade cabs done right. Great use of space.

No. It was just a rumor on one of the YouTube channels that have been covering Arcade1Up. It’s probably coming next year.

I saw a review on the pixel ones before they did the fridge and said the joystick wasn't responsive enough. That's bad for something like Pacman. Anyone try one before?

Overall review and observations from the Arcade Repair Tips guys, who were invited to the Arcade1Up offices to check them out...

Watched it. The big thing I took away from this was the spinner on the Asteroids cab didn’t feel as solid as an original Tempest one. Which is a shame because that’s the big one for me.

Also, I messaged the company on FB about their joystick gates. They told me the gate on the Street Fighter was square which is more true to Japanese arcades as opposed to American ones that used octagonal.

Wait what? What American street fighter game came with octagonal gates?
Happ’s don’t really have gates. Rather they have shaped actuators that don’t really act like gates. Comps are better for fighting games because they hit the corners better than supers. The more I hear about Arcade1Up the less I think they know about actual arcade machines.

One of the youtube people has pics of a pacman + pacman plus arcade1up cabinet so it is definitely coming. I also read a rumor saying it would be a Walmart exclusive announced in October and also priced at $299.

They didn't? Ok. Sorry. I'm really not an arcade guy. That's just something I read on an arcade forum about square vs. octagonal gates. All I know is I'm far too aggressive with the stick to do quarter turns with a square gate. I'll just stick to my Qanba Drone with a Sanwa stick to play SF on my PS3/PS4.

IL eurosticks ftw

Unless you've modded that stick it's got a square gate, that's what stock on a Sanwa JLF.

Yup, need to put a circled gate , Or if you preferred to fill every diagonal, there is a gate that has a notch for every angle, pretty nice if you’re trying to teach kids how to play fighting games.

Nah, square gate is the standard for a reason. I'd advise just adjusting to it. Definitely not a ding on these cabs to come with square gates, I'd expect it. Almost anyone who's still playing Street Fighter is using a square gate, every single stick from any manufacturer, Hori or Razer or Qanba, (RIP Madcatz) etc, be it Sanwa or in-house lever, all using square gate unless you mod.

If you have a personal preference by all means switch it up though.

Swapped out the square with their octo. Very easy. Just pressure clips.

I ordered the deluxe from Best Buy. It was scheduled to arrive no later than Sept. 24th. The update I received today now states no later than Oct. 16th.

I received the same notice.

Previously, I had seen that the release date for the riser was Oct 15. So, maybe these deluxe units are delayed due to the riser?

No big deal. I figure it will give me more of a chance to see some reviews and decide if I want to cancel or not, before it ships.

Yep same here.

Yeah got the same email from Best Buy. That said, Game Stop is still honoring the Sept 24th date for the two cabs I ordered from them.

From Arcade 1up’s Twitter

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Oh brother. Leeches are trying to flip these already. $750

https://offerup.com/item/detail/536651388/

Same person is trying to flip a SNES classic for $150 when they are readily available now.

Oh man. This is why we can’t have nice things!!!

That guy needs to get a job.

I can list one on eBay for $48,000, but that doesn't mean I'm going to get it.

Glad there is such a huge demand. Love to see more of these things.

Yah, even if it’s just a flash in the pan and they’re gone in a couple years time. It will be cool to see how many different ones they make. The initial popularity will cause them to release a second batch, but I wonder how long they’ll be produced.

The company behind arcade 1 up is the same one as hatchamals, so I would expect a multi million dollar add campaign for Christmas.

Oh, really? Didn't know that. Interesting. That gives me better hope for the product. I just figured it was just a couple guys who got the licenses together.

So that probably means, somewhat limited run for the rest of the year. Then the next year, all we'll see are these things. I swear, now that I seem Hatchamals all over the place, I almost think I should buy one just because it's what everyone was hunting for a couple Christmas's ago.

They should make Hatchamal arcade cabs. You don't know which title you will get until you open the egg.

Here’s the parent company

http://www.tastemakersllc.com

Ah dang, now I have to rethink of these anymore. Those damn hatchamals took my daughter from normal to crazy! I swear they put crack into those dang eggs.

Gamestop is giving trade bonuses if you trade current-gen game systems toward a 1Up pre-order. $250 if you trade in a PS4, for instance.

https://www.gamestop.com/trade

Interesting.

All my Walmart orders have need delayed. Is EVERYBODY getting these emails? They said some people will still get them on time.

Man. No credit for an Xbox 360 . Come on!

12 in 1 Atari special edition just announced. 12 games, riser included. $399.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/arcade1up-deluxe-edition-12-in-1-arcade-cabinet-with-riser-atari-graphics/6288355.p?skuId=6288355

Lol. Yeah, cause trading in your ps4 will satisfy your gaming needs. Trade in a state of the art system capable of playing 100s of great games, for a mini arcade that can only play 3, 30 year old games.

But I'm sure Gamestop would gladly sell you back your PS4 for 50% more than what they gave you.

But.....I do have an xbone s that I rarely play and I think I got it during a black Friday deal for $250. I could technically break even.

Agreed. I don’t know who this trade in “deal” is for but it isn’t me.

Probably someone like me. I bought a PS4, GTA and Gran Turismo. I missed playing GT and GTA from my college days and wanted to get back into them. They botched GT by not allowing you to customize the cars as you did in the past and I hate the gameplay of the new GTA. Like the story line but hate the controls and how I can't customize them to meet my needs (have to pick from per-determined settings).

So at the end of the day i spent a lot of cash for a console and 2 games that i played 2 weeks and has bend sitting in a cabinet collecting dust for a year now

I'll give you $10 for Gran Turismo. Been waiting for the price to drop on that game because of what I've heard they've done with it, but still hovering around $40.

You just need one of these setups

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Someone posted a pic on facebook. Thing is so tiny. I imagine most will be adding the riser.

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