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25% punitive tariff on pinball machines for EU customers

By master_of_chaos

3 years ago


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    #75 3 years ago

    I just had a game (expensive one) in transit from the USA. I’ll probably get taxed so I’m looking into returning it to the US.... I didn’t realize this when I bought it (2 weeks ago).

    #80 3 years ago

    Well mine was planned fortransport, but not picked up yet.
    Now my new plan is to keep it in the US in storage until the tariff is removed. 25% is senseless (note that after this you get also a 21% VAT if it’s a private purchase).
    So suppose you buy a part of 100 euro, then its 125 after the tariff making it roughly 150.
    To make it extra fun: shipment costs are taken into this calcation.

    So normally when I buy mods from
    the US I get the 21% only over value+shipment.
    So people can’t buy mods at normal prices either anymore.

    This rule does exactly what it is supposed to: stop everyone from buying anything from these category of items.

    #97 3 years ago

    For those who still doubt if it’s true, see attachment.

    Freigjt forwarder also confirmed that I will be charged.

    My shipment got cancelled fortunately.

    https://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/docs/2019/april/tradoc_157861.pdf

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    #98 3 years ago

    I doubt the pinball manufacturers will mind; if only 15% is export and export drops with 40-50% then Gary Stern’s 5000 games backlog shrinks just with a tiny bit hehe

    #101 3 years ago

    Oh I thought some said 15%

    I have no exact numbers on any of this info... So I’m likely wrong

    #115 3 years ago
    Quoted from Dr-pin:

    Do you honestly think half of the orders will stick at an extra 25% cost?
    I dont.

    You mean it will be much higher or much lower? For me the tax is too high and I’m the typical LE buyer. So I guess then that for premium and pro buyers it will be a big no

    1 month later
    #261 3 years ago

    Holy crap, I ordered some mods at Tim Mezel.... had to pay 134 euros import fees!!!
    So the 25% is charged over the value, plus the shipping costs. Then over this they add 21% VAT.
    Apparently applied also to mods and pinball parts.
    I'm not ordering anymore from the US.

    2 months later
    #336 3 years ago

    As of today the tax is gone and prices are back to normal:

    https://www.google.nl/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2AX1Z0

    Good news for those who bought the GnR CE’s in Europe, they pay now the normal price again of 13K and not the 17K, because none of these games shipped yet.

    Too bad for LE owners in the EU who got their games delivered already and laid 12.5K for it, they paid now almost the CE price.

    Also second hand market will go back to normal now, because this also increased 25%
    at least.

    #350 3 years ago

    Matter of a few days, it took also only 3 days to put the tariff in place (voting 9th, in place 11th).
    I already got confirmation that my game will not be charged the extra 25%.

    #357 3 years ago
    Quoted from aeneas:

    Probably because what they have in stock now is bought with the fee, and they don't want to sell with a loss ?
    Only new orders (when their stock is sold out) will come in with lower fee, and then we'll hopefully see this..

    There is no stock with these +25% prices. The only pinball that was available and released in this time was GnR LE and Led Zeppelin.
    From my distributor he said only a few LZ were ordered by customers. All other games were already long time in Europe but were sold by the distro's at the +25% increase.
    Nobody sold much new during this time and all distro's knew this was a temporary measure so they would be crazy to stock hundreds of pinballs.
    So they mostly earned 25% more on selling existing stock.

    The distro's, like Freddy's Pinball, immediately upped prices even on parts they already had in stock with 25% regardless where it came from.
    Look at what they ask now for the Medieval Madness topper: 900 euros!! He already had these long before the price increase (when I also bought one).
    From one day to the next it was more expensive.

    But yeah, bringing it back down will not happen in his shop, unless people stop buying apparently.
    My Dutch distro has also nicely reduced the price.

    2 weeks later
    #381 3 years ago

    Well the UK is not the EU anymore, so it's not a problem.

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