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2020 Recap - Greatest Pinball Game of All-Time - Tournament Edition

By AFM95

3 years ago


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    #9 3 years ago

    I would really like to see Pinside add an Elo Rating system to go along with the Top 100 list.

    It would not take much effort to implement an Elo voting page. A year worth of that data would make for much improved seeding to start another fan vote in 2021.

    #16 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    I still think that the bracket mechanism is flawed because the seeding so drastically affects the outcome. A machine that happened to get seeded against AFM or LOTR early on gets kicked out much earlier than it might have otherwise.
    I was thinking it would be interesting to have people list their top 20 machines (in order) and then get a ranking/result from compiling that. I realize that there probably isn't an automated way of collecting that data - it would have to be compiled manually (instead of using the "poll" function).
    The real problem with the Top 100 list is that people don't rate stuff relatively (or consistently). They get a new machine and rate it a "10", even though they don't think it's as good as some other machine they have (which they probably gave a "10" to also).

    This is the problem an Elo Rating System solves. Every game gets tested vs every other game over time. It eliminates bias and attempts to tank certain games.

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    Yes, but it takes a very long time before you have enough samples of every machine vs. every other machine to get useful results. And for every "useful" test (like AFM vs MM), there would be a hundred useless tests (like AFM vs. Bugs Bunny Birthday).

    That's why I would suggest starting with say the top 50 right now. Even then it doesn't take long to look at two games and click on the one you think is better. How many members does Pinside have? I think the data would add up very quickly.

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