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2019 New Pinball purchase will be taxed.


By mnpinball

11 months ago



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    Post #297 Comments from a distributor. Posted by KingPinGames (11 months ago)

    Post #304 More info from a distributor. Posted by KingPinGames (11 months ago)

    Post #355 Economic nexus test, uses Louisiana as an example. Posted by iceman44 (11 months ago)

    Post #415 Comment from distributor. Posted by Gexchange (11 months ago)

    Post #465 State by state tracker. Posted by flynnibus (11 months ago)

    Post #505 Some expierence for 2019 and suggestions. Posted by Pinzap (11 months ago)

    Post #513 Break down of thresholds state by state Posted by Hemispheres (10 months ago)


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    #90 11 months ago
    Quoted from flashinstinct:

    I guess it boils down to a different point of view. I pay taxes for things happening all over my province for the betterment of all citizens that live in it. Same things goes for our healthcare. I pay taxes so that someone can get heart surgery, or an operation to get a donated kidney for free. If rolls were switched I would appreciate the same if ever I needed healthcare help. I'm completely fine with that.

    I'm pretty sure we ALL pay taxes for the betterment of ALL citizens. Been that way for a LONG time.

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    #126 11 months ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Yeah it’s almost as if the bullshit tax cuts we all got aren’t really gonna help most of us.

    100% wrong on fiscal issues as usual Levi

    When people file their 2018 returns finally in April those “bullshit tax cuts” will come in handy for EVERYBODY

    Now on a state level, there is a good reason why there is a mass exodus from high tax states like Cali, New Jersey, New York and Illinois to name a few to low tax state like Texas and Florida.

    The problem with that is you F Ed up those states with your “bullshit” and now want to bring it to our states

    #130 11 months ago

    My client is on his way back to Lebanon tomorrow. He is there building new US embassies around the region for the next several years with dollars appropriated from the prior administration

    $700million contract that they could do for $200 million

    Why? Govt decided it wanted “opulence” and grandeur

    Of course. It’s government. And the reason why the wealthiest counties in America all surround Washington DC

    #137 11 months ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    There will be no tax returns since the government will still be shut down.

    I hope so. Shut the whole M fer down as long as the politicians don’t get paid.

    #139 11 months ago
    Quoted from Darcy:

    So you guys are stating that if a pin is sold on a private basis, that the seller has to charge the tax? How does the gov't collect it?
    .
    Surely you guys are complaining that when buying a game through a company or online seller like E-bay, that a tax is charged... Right.

    If anybody collects tax on a private sale they are Nucking Futs

    Looks like another reason to wait for secondary sales

    #146 11 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    You know the politicians are still check collecting right? They also get health insurance that many others don't receive as well..... I know you knew all of this, but with all of your previous posts in this thread, I wasn't sure if you were sober since it is so early in the day, or if you were posting via one of your classic online drinking binges.

    Lol

    Yeah that comes later

    I can’t say what I really think

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    #195 11 months ago

    The top “1 percent ers..” pay 40% of the total federal income tax collected

    The top 10% pays 71% of the total

    The bottom 45% pay Zero Federal income tax

    Fact: No matter how you slice it rate wise, you aren’t squeezing any more juice out of the “rich”. They will plan around it or move

    Need to look at 1/2 the population that pays ZERO

    When you lower taxes, oh wait, unemployment goes to record lows AND wages rise, including the minimum wage across the country and voluntarily for Amazon, Walmart, etc

    You want to ration Healthcare? Move to Canada

    Many of you should be applauding these sales taxes, but you only want higher taxes as long as it doesn’t apply to you!

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    #214 11 months ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    The top 10 percent have NO IDEA how bad the bottom 45 percent have it. Pay people a good living wage and they will be more then happy to contribute their share of taxes.
    Can’t take blood from a stone.

    The bottom 45% have no idea how bad people outside of the USA and Canada “have it”

    Gimme a F ing break

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    #215 11 months ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    Percentage of income is what matters, not amount. Warren Buffett even admits that his secretary pays a higher percentage of her income than him. When passive income (capital gains) is taxed at a lower rate than active income (people who work for a living), things are skewed for the rich. Sales taxes or any flat taxes are regressive and affect working and poor classes more since a much higher percentage of their income needs to be spent in order to live.
    As far as you or any other rich person "moving away", yeah right.

    If I paid $500k in taxes you want more

    I would fire people, instead of hiring them and paying them more IF

    Taxes go up. Simple

    See above, the top 1% already pays almost 50% of the individual tax base

    What about that don’t you get?

    It seems terrible to root for failure like many do

    Unless you just want the rich to do everything for you

    The fact that anybody here is bitching about taxes is ridiculous.

    Go live in a 3rd world country. Good luck. I’m not your Daddy

    #224 11 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I know there's lots of people talking here, but I think the point is being missed. No one ultimately cares how much you pay in taxes. They care about what THEY pay in taxes. You say the rich pay 50% in taxes....I'm not rich and I pay nearly 50% in taxes. That 50% impacts me WAY more than it hurts someone making 100's of millions more than me, even if the number of zeros is different.
    The ultimate question since you seem to be so pro-more-tax is this. What number do you consider enough? Because NO one should be for more taxes unless you're a politician.

    You don’t pay 50% in federal income tax.

    That’s ignorance

    #227 11 months ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    I don’t think I get what your saying here.
    I commented that the discrepancy between the elite and poor in America is greater then most of the elite recognize.
    Your rebuttal is that the poor in your country are doing better then then the poor in (3rd world nations?). How is that a just comparison. People are starving, but they should just be happy to be there and not want a better life?
    Saying your poor are better then other poor won’t win you any nice guy awards.

    You aren’t entitled to anything

    Cell phones and High Def TVs?

    The only people starving are the homeless camps set up in San Francisco and other limo lib camps

    Sorry but there will always be some with more stuff

    That doesn’t mean anything if you are happy and it shouldn’t.

    Like I said, if you are in the discussion about taxing pinball machines then you have ZERO complaints

    #228 11 months ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    I know there's lots of people talking here, but I think the point is being missed. No one ultimately cares how much you pay in taxes. They care about what THEY pay in taxes. You say the rich pay 50% in taxes....I'm not rich and I pay nearly 50% in taxes. That 50% impacts me WAY more than it hurts someone making 100's of millions more than me, even if the number of zeros is different.
    The ultimate question since you seem to be so pro-more-tax is this. What number do you consider enough? Because NO one should be for more taxes unless you're a politician.

    LOL

    Read what you wrote.

    BS

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    #251 11 months ago

    Rich or poor

    Smart or stupid

    Who cares.

    Life is too short to whine about anything

    I love you guys!

    If you are here buying pins then congrats

    Either way you should be thankful and you are blessed

    I do everything I can to help others

    You want to hate that? So be it

    #355 11 months ago

    https://www.taxmatrix.com/louisiana-economic-nexus-january-1-2019/

    Another good site with a downloadable state by state calculator

    Of course there is a ways to go as these states start adopting their own nexus rules.

    But it will be coming rapidly

    The “Economic nexus” is gonna be impossible for the big distributors.

    One solution would be to establish a network of mini sub distributors that wouldn’t violate a “substance over form” argument. Creative contracts

    I will be looking at the issue and thinking about creative ways to avoid this as the state by state rules develop.

    #361 11 months ago

    Stern has potential liability here as well

    Drop shipping a game straight from Chicago to your doorstep.

    Enforcement is gonna be extremely tough for these states

    But if you can go straight to the original Seller on drop ships AND sales tax wasn’t collected by the Distro it could leave Stern with potential exposure

    I deal with Doctor groups and navigating the “Stark” anti referral rules. VERY creative and the state AG office is always two steps behind because they don’t have the manpower to enforce and/or change the rules timely enough to make a difference

    Stern needs to help figure this out and not just think they are going to pass this cost on

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