2019 New Pinball purchase will be taxed.

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2019 New Pinball purchase will be taxed.


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    #251 74 days ago

    Rich or poor

    Smart or stupid

    Who cares.

    Life is too short to whine about anything

    I love you guys!

    If you are here buying pins then congrats

    Either way you should be thankful and you are blessed

    I do everything I can to help others

    You want to hate that? So be it

    #252 74 days ago
    Quoted from yzfguy:

    You seem to have way too much animosity toward your neighbor to the south.

    I don’t hate America, or Americans. Just sometimes I feel that there could be a better way for all, not just some.

    Please don’t begin to believe that just because we have different view points that I think your somewhat less of a person. Disagreements move conversations forward and help change perspective on situations.

    My father and I are on total political polar opposites, but I still love him and value his opinions. Even if I dont agree.

    #253 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    Were 13% sales tax on everything here. It’s kinda hard listening to people bitch about having to finally pay sales taxes. It’s just the way of life for lots of people.
    Welcome to the rest of the world.

    We're trying hard not to become socialists... and failing, unfortunately.

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    #254 74 days ago
    Quoted from yzfguy:

    I get that. I never said anything about everyone from Canada, but @those claiming ours is a failed system.

    Our system isn't too bad, its the people that are running this country and selling us out. As far as the country and our system its pretty great overall and "MOST" Americans are pretty hard working people that strive to be successful. Things are going south for sure but in the end im hoping the good people of this country will prevail.

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    #255 74 days ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    Exactly. I don't know many people personally on here either. But I will tell you this. The idea of people pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and becoming rich in America is an exploded myth. Most were born on 3rd base and thought they hit a triple. People need to stop pretending like the exception is the norm.
    And now that Iceman has finally officially exposed himself for what you could only speculate about before with the "limo lib camp" comment. Those comments belong on Breitbart, not here.

    This is complete and utter bullshit. I myself worked my ass off to get what I have in life. I went to college with 20 bucks in my pocket and started the climb from there. It takes a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. And getting kick in the guts and getting back up. Over and over. And above all, not making excuses.

    And I am not alone. If you look around, there are a lot of folks that have done the same thing. Working poor. First generation immigrants. Plumbers. Electricians. And the list goes on and on.

    Yeah, so there are a lot of people born on 3rd base. Guess what, the world is not fair. Get a helmet. But to go cateorize that people clawing their way up to build a life for themselves is an exploded myth is not accurate and tries to minimize people busting their asses for success.

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    #256 74 days ago

    Born on 3rd base... that's a new one. Work harder and maybe your kids and grandkids can be born on 3rd base.

    #257 74 days ago

    Going back to the real topic of this thread, this law will not change whether or not I buy an NIB machine in 2019. Whats an extra 6% when I'm spending $7500 already? Screw it. Hasn't stopped people from buying cars all these years. It might change who I buy NIB machines from though. If I have to pay state taxes anyway, I might as well buy the game from a local seller in Florida and give them the business.

    #258 74 days ago
    Quoted from John_I:

    Going back to the real topic of this thread, this law will not change whether or not I buy an NIB machine in 2019. Whats an extra 6% when I'm spending $7500 already? Screw it. Hasn't stopped people from buying cars all these years. It might change who I buy NIB machines from though. If I have to pay state taxes anyway, I might as well buy the game from a local seller in Florida and give them the business.

    It's $450+300 shipping. That's how much. Just saying. It's not a small amount. Buying locally of course solves the shipping part. We can't use the car analogy because ...well that was set by everyone else. Ultimately, what this means is the hobby just got more expensive.

    #259 74 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    It's $450+300 shipping. That's how much. Just saying. It's not a small amount.

    Compared to the $7500 for the game its not a lot. Plus I might avoid shipping if my local brick and mortar has games in stock.

    #260 74 days ago

    Drives me crazy when people are for higher taxes. Of course, people are never for raising their own taxes. Sucks when you have to pay more and costs of living shoot up. This whole tax argument started because everyone who wants a nib pin will be taxed. Businesses will suffer and customers unhappy. Nobody wins.

    #261 74 days ago
    Quoted from Sinestro:

    They have to collect it for the state the buyer is in, not the state the seller is in.
    That’s why it will be so burdensome.

    I’m moving to Oregon now!

    #262 74 days ago

    To throw salt on wound, here in Ontario there’s not only the 13% sales tax we pay on NIB games, but we also have to deal with fluctuating currency exchange rates.

    You plan to buy a game in 2 weeks, the dollar drops by a penny and suddenly your paying hundreds more in unexpected cost. You can plan and save for taxes, but we don’t even know what the price is until we go pay. The price is calculated that day.

    #263 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    To throw salt on wound, here in Ontario there’s not only the 13% sales tax we pay on NIB games, but we also have to deal with fluctuating currency exchange rates.
    You plan to buy a game in 2 weeks, the dollar drops by a penny and suddenly your paying hundreds more in unexpected cost. You can plan and save for taxes, but we don’t even know what the price is until we go pay. The price is calculated that day.

    That sucks. That is a real pain.

    #264 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    To throw salt on wound, here in Ontario there’s not only the 13% sales tax we pay on NIB games, but we also have to deal with fluctuating currency exchange rates.
    You plan to buy a game in 2 weeks, the dollar drops by a penny and suddenly your paying hundreds more in unexpected cost. You can plan and save for taxes, but we don’t even know what the price is until we go pay. The price is calculated that day.

    You should try bitcoin! *cough*

    #265 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    To throw salt on wound, here in Ontario there’s not only the 13% sales tax we pay on NIB games, but we also have to deal with fluctuating currency exchange rates.
    You plan to buy a game in 2 weeks, the dollar drops by a penny and suddenly your paying hundreds more in unexpected cost. You can plan and save for taxes, but we don’t even know what the price is until we go pay. The price is calculated that day.

    You should move south to America!

    #266 74 days ago
    Quoted from Monte:

    You should move south to America!

    There’s a good chance I’d get denied at the border. They’d probably let me through, but I haven’t tested it in the last decade and the world has changed a lot since then.

    Ya know, them bad lifestyle choices might comeback to annoy me.

    #267 74 days ago
    Quoted from DBLM:

    This is complete and utter bullshit. I myself worked my ass off to get what I have in life. I went to college with 20 bucks in my pocket and started the climb from there. It takes a lot of blood, sweat, and tears. And getting kick in the guts and getting back up. Over and over. And above all, not making excuses.
    And I am not alone. If you look around, there are a lot of folks that have done the same thing. Working poor. First generation immigrants. Plumbers. Electricians. And the list goes on and on.
    Yeah, so there are a lot of people born on 3rd base. Guess what, the world is not fair. Get a helmet. But to go cateorize that people clawing their way up to build a life for themselves is an exploded myth is not accurate and tries to minimize people busting their asses for success.

    Amen brother....well said!

    #268 74 days ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    Exactly. I don't know many people personally on here either. But I will tell you this. The idea of people pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and becoming rich in America is an exploded myth. Most were born on 3rd base and thought they hit a triple. People need to stop pretending like the exception is the norm.
    And now that Iceman has finally officially exposed himself for what you could only speculate about before with the "limo lib camp" comment. Those comments belong on Breitbart, not here.

    Stop smoking pot and listening to Pink Floyd. It’s what’s holding you back from your wealth potential. Embrace your bootstraps and join us.

    #269 74 days ago

    I like turtles.

    #270 74 days ago

    Just thinking smart, big distributors will take less to keep and get more sales. (Putting big squeeze on small distributors.)

    It will become more cut throat for all distributors and I think we will see fewer distributors over time.

    Consolidation of the distbution market!

    FYI, those fewer distributors will sell more machines to make the same amount of money as in the past.

    Some smaller distributors may hang on by charging or offering other services (but very few!)

    This in turn will hurt many local markets - just the opposite.

    Let the games begin in 2019!!!!!

    #271 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    The top 10 percent have NO IDEA how bad the bottom 45 percent have it.

    Can I politely ask if you've ever lived in a 2nd or 3rd world country? I have, and most of the bottom 45 percent have it pretty good in the United States.

    #272 74 days ago
    Quoted from Zablon:

    It's $450+300 shipping. That's how much. Just saying. It's not a small amount. Buying locally of course solves the shipping part. We can't use the car analogy because ...well that was set by everyone else. Ultimately, what this means is the hobby just got more expensive.

    Agreed.. it all adds up and I'm sure prices will continue to rise also.... so a stern pro will be over 6k and that's just if stern don't raise prices again. To put things in perspective i paid 6300 for a walking dead premium with shaker just a little over 2 years ago . Jjp pins will be (for example jjp potcle) will be over 10k and almost 10,500 with shipping..... crazy...

    #273 74 days ago

    Interesting stat about how people got their wealth:

    “According to the book The Millionaire Next Door, only 20% of millionaires inherited their wealth. The other 80% earned their cash on their own.”

    For the 80% percent of people who earned their way to becoming millionaires (and for everybody else that busts their asses to provide for their families): I salute you! Keep doing what you are doing,

    For the 20% that inherited it: Congrats on being lucky, you lucky bastards!

    #274 74 days ago

    Too long

    #275 74 days ago

    Real ones or the chocolate ones?

    #276 74 days ago

    Oh man...now I can't buy a NIB! Just kidding. I'm cheap ass!

    #277 74 days ago

    I just feel worse for small businesses who have to figure out how to collect and pay for this tax mess more then myself personally paying $400 tax to buy a game.

    No one wants to pay more for items but if it does end we had a good run. Did we all think it would last forever?

    #278 74 days ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    Amen brother....well said!

    Agree! More than not, our successes are usually related to the decisions we make.

    #279 74 days ago
    Quoted from brett:

    Between income tax, sales tax, personal use tax, payroll tax, and property taxes we can pay over 70% in taxes a year.
    And they say, we don’t pay anything.

    Don’t forget corporate tax that’s priced into everything you buy.

    #280 74 days ago
    Quoted from Sonora70:

    Agree! More than not, our successes are usually related to the decisions we make.

    Decisions and attitude.

    #281 74 days ago
    Quoted from DBLM:

    Interesting stat about how people got their wealth:
    “According to the book The Millionaire Next Door, only 20% of millionaires inherited their wealth. The other 80% earned their cash on their own.”
    For the 80% percent of people who earned their way to becoming millionaires (and for everybody else that busts their asses to provide for their families): I salute you! Keep doing what you are doing,
    For the 20% that inherited it: Congrats on being lucky, you lucky bastards!

    Great book

    #282 74 days ago
    Quoted from AFM95:

    Can I politely ask if you've ever lived in a 2nd or 3rd world country? I have, and most of the bottom 45 percent have it pretty good in the United States.

    No I haven’t.

    At work I daily deal with people going through very difficult times, people at the bottom of society. I regularly see shit that would blow your mind, and that’s just the way of life for some people. I also deal with people that are considerably well off just as often. Daily I will travel from public housing to multi million dollar mansions. The dichotomy amazes me regularly, and most people have no idea how the other side lives.

    My experience with the 3rd world is from the media and vicariously through my friends experiences, but I don’t have first hand knowledge of their lives.

    But to try and steer this conversation back on track we’re talking about new pinball purchases and how to best avoid paying any new sales taxes, right?

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    #283 74 days ago

    This bleeding heart crap is getting annoying.

    We are already taxed through the nose. It needs to stop somewhere cause this is ridiculous.

    #284 74 days ago

    People in OR will begin buying pins and reselling w/o taxes.

    Some retailers in CO will not collect taxes for other states. Then, what will those other states DO about it. Like, why the hell would I care if the state of CA’s dept of revenue said I owe them $? And not all states are set up to implement it.

    #285 74 days ago
    Quoted from DBLM:

    Interesting stat about how people got their wealth:
    “According to the book The Millionaire Next Door, only 20% of millionaires inherited their wealth. The other 80% earned their cash on their own.”
    For the 80% percent of people who earned their way to becoming millionaires (and for everybody else that busts their asses to provide for their families): I salute you! Keep doing what you are doing,
    For the 20% that inherited it: Congrats on being lucky, you lucky bastards!

    This would be great if it were so simple. There are a lot of complex reasons why some people who start with "nothing" do way better than people who actually do start with nothing.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-self-made-success-lets-kill-that-myth

    This is the kind of story that never gets told from the "I did it all myself" crowd. The best quote is here: "I didn't inherit my wealth. I created it.

    But look a little deeper, and it turns out that version of my success story is a lie. Yes, my family background is rather humble. Both of my parents were teachers. I grew up in hand-me-down clothes from our neighbors.

    But, before I was born, my parents got help from their parents to buy a house in a safe neighborhood with good schools. When my grandmother passed, she left each of her grandkids some money, not a fortune, but enough that I made it through college without school debt.

    My wife's nana was a school teacher as well. She and her husband saved their humble income and bought land decades ago. And when I started my business, she believed in me enough to sell her land and invest the money in my start-up.

    So, we can blow up the myth that I'm a self-made success. Sure, I had something to do with it, but I also had some serious help."

    The story goes on to talk about other forms of generational privilege, but you get the idea.

    On that note, we're certainly not going to resolve our differences of opinion here. The reality is that this tax has just upped the cost of the hobby.

    #286 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    The top 10 percent have NO IDEA how bad the bottom 45 percent have it. Pay people a good living wage and they will be more then happy to contribute their share of taxes.
    Can’t take blood from a stone.

    We do get blood from a stone. The bottom half do pay taxes, they fuel the lottery. 50 percent goes to the government and 50 percent is donated to the winner.

    We also hide taxing the bottom half under the guise of helping them make better choices. We have raised the taxes on cigarettes significantly in the past years with this tactic. Both of these taxes target the bottom 45.

    #287 74 days ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    This would be great if it were so simple. There are a lot of complex reasons why some people who start with "nothing" do way better than people who actually do start with nothing.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-self-made-success-lets-kill-that-myth
    This is the kind of story that never gets told from the "I did it all myself" crowd. The best quote is here: "I didn't inherit my wealth. I created it.
    But look a little deeper, and it turns out that version of my success story is a lie. Yes, my family background is rather humble. Both of my parents were teachers. I grew up in hand-me-down clothes from our neighbors.
    But, before I was born, my parents got help from their parents to buy a house in a safe neighborhood with good schools. When my grandmother passed, she left each of her grandkids some money, not a fortune, but enough that I made it through college without school debt.
    My wife's nana was a school teacher as well. She and her husband saved their humble income and bought land decades ago. And when I started my business, she believed in me enough to sell her land and invest the money in my start-up.
    So, we can blow up the myth that I'm a self-made success. Sure, I had something to do with it, but I also had some serious help."
    The story goes on to talk about other forms of generational privilege, but you get the idea.
    On that note, we're certainly not going to resolve our differences of opinion here. The reality is that this tax has just upped the cost of the hobby.

    You base your views on this guy?

    Looks like he got his BA degree at North Texas in band and jazz? Then he worked for 20 plus years in the tech industry and became a millionaire selling a company I cant find the sale of. ??

    I dunno man. Jazz Band Major in college to tech millionaire with 25 years of his work in tech doesn't sounds like he did most of it on his own to me.

    This is seriously what you base your view on "folks start at third base" to make it in the US? Band major millionaire. OK?

    #288 74 days ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    The reality is that this tax has just upped the cost of the hobby.

    But if someone has been buying local all along and paying their local sales tax all along then nothing would be different.

    This will only affect people that have ordered online from out of state to avoid their local taxation. Correct?

    #289 74 days ago
    Quoted from DBLM:

    Interesting stat about how people got their wealth:
    “According to the book The Millionaire Next Door, only 20% of millionaires inherited their wealth The other 80% earned their cash on their own.”
    For the 80% percent of people who earned their way to becoming millionaires (and for everybody else that busts their asses to provide for their families): I salute you! Keep doing what you are doing,
    For the 20% that inherited it: Congrats on being lucky, you lucky bastards!

    DBLM glad you mentioned this book it's excellent. I hope more people read it.

    #290 74 days ago
    Quoted from pinnyheadhead:

    You base your views on this guy?
    Looks like he got his BA degree at North Texas in band and jazz? Then he worked for 20 plus years in the tech industry and became a millionaire selling a company I cant find the sale of. ??
    I dunno man. Jazz Band Major in college to tech millionaire with 25 years of his work in tech doesn't sounds like he did most of it on his own to me.
    This is seriously what you base your view on "folks start at third base" to make it in the US? Band major millionaire. OK?

    No. He is an example of one of those supposed "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" guys who supposedly started with nothing. He was not a born millionaire, but had plenty of hidden advantages. Remember when everyone laughed and scoffed at "You didn't build that."? Well, this guy is a shining example. The difference between him and most is that he admits it and is honest about it.

    So, even if you happen to be born on 2nd or 1st, you still have huge advantages that the vast majority of the population does not have.

    #291 74 days ago
    Quoted from Lermods:

    This internet tax thing is a joke. If you buy something out of state, you the consumer technically are supposed to pay sales tax to your state. Under the new law, the out of state retailer is now supposed to collect the tax and pay it with your state. It’s going to be a headache for everyone. I think the limit for a retailer is 200 transactions or $100k in revenue in any state.
    It’s just a money grab by politicians, has little to do with competition. We have no pinball brick and mortar distros or even internet distros based in NJ. The main retailers affected are the big chain stores that were being hurt by Amazon, which now collects sales tax.

    There is Betson and pinball sales to name two in New Jersey.

    #292 74 days ago
    Quoted from WackyBrakke:

    Did you know that you are supposed to pay sales tax on private party sales too? But again, hard to enforce.
    The only place I see it enforced is on private party vehicle sales, because when you register the vehicle you show a bill of sale that states the sale price and the DMV collects the sales tax. But, people cheat that system by asking the seller to lie about the sales price on the bill of sale.

    What is the justification of taxing individuals on private party sales. The whole value of the product was already originally taxed. Isn’t the double taxation.

    #293 74 days ago
    Quoted from cantbfrank:

    What is the justification of taxing individuals on private party sales. The whole value of the product was already originally taxed. Isn’t the double taxation.

    Ya this is total bullshit, but like it’s been said, in the auto market it’s been enforced through registration. Private sales have no way of being enforced, so it never happens, although you’re supposed to report it on your taxes. No one ever dose.

    Now there will be enforcement for online sales.

    So, ya, double taxation is happening on the second hand market and is not right.

    I’d be cautious even posting a for sale add on pinside. Even if it’s a private sale, it’s been facilitated through the Internet on a public website. IRS catches a sale you didn’t report and I bet that won’t be a fun process.

    #294 74 days ago

    This thread seems misleading, maybe eventually “all” new purchases with be taxed.

    Doesn’t a Nexus have to be setup in the state a distributor is shipping to? As in, if a distributor in Connecticut ships to Tennessee, then they only have to collect sale tax if they do $500k in business to that state?

    And also some states, like Texas, don’t have a nexus so there isn’t a requirement yet.

    Wouldn’t it help smaller distributors that don’t do high levels of business in particular states, helping us buyers by finding a distributor that won’t do that volume in our state?

    #295 74 days ago

    So is TAXMAN on the new Beatles Pin ?

    #296 74 days ago
    Quoted from cantbfrank:

    What is the justification of taxing individuals on private party sales. The whole value of the product was already originally taxed. Isn’t the double taxation.

    The record stores still asses taxes on used records even though the original tax was paid. I remember Garth Brooks brought a lawsuit against re-sellers because he only got his royalties once.

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    #297 74 days ago

    This has definitely been on my mind lately. I have lots of customers in different states, mainly for tax reasons, but also because we have built a relationship. The way I understood the law was "if I (the seller) had a physical presence in the same state as you (the buyer) then I was required to collect the sales tax. On the other hand, if you (the buyer) were located in a different state then it was up to you to pay the tax. It's not that you never had to pay the tax, it was that I just never had to collect it.

    Now, under the new laws, I'm am a glorified tax collector for the government. What does this mean for me as a distributor? Let me ask this instead. Let's say I make the 18 hour drive one way from my office to texas pinball fest. What advantages does a texas resident have to buy from me instead of from their local distributor? Other than offering extended warranties and exclusive stories about the superstar jjp designer?

    I can see this new tax collection law increasing my local sales as now I am on the same price level as guys from out of state, but I can't see a reason (other than personal) for making the business journey to far away shows. I will probably still make the trip to tpf because I like the show and they (dallas) do not have a local JJP/Spooky distributor, but (as always) I encourage everyone to buy locally to support local dealers.

    I ask the pinside crowd this. Would you still continue to buy from and out of state dealer if they had to collect sales tax from you (and charge a higher shipping rate)? I included the high shipping since shipping one game states away cost more than shipping a dozen games to my office where "local" buyers can pick them up? I have lot of pinball friends in lots of other states, but I would not blame any of them for choosing to buy locally if all else was equal.

    Lots to think about in 2019.

    #298 74 days ago
    Quoted from usandthem:

    This would be great if it were so simple. There are a lot of complex reasons why some people who start with "nothing" do way better than people who actually do start with nothing.
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-self-made-success-lets-kill-that-myth
    This is the kind of story that never gets told from the "I did it all myself" crowd. The best quote is here: "I didn't inherit my wealth. I created it.
    But look a little deeper, and it turns out that version of my success story is a lie. Yes, my family background is rather humble. Both of my parents were teachers. I grew up in hand-me-down clothes from our neighbors.
    But, before I was born, my parents got help from their parents to buy a house in a safe neighborhood with good schools. When my grandmother passed, she left each of her grandkids some money, not a fortune, but enough that I made it through college without school debt.
    My wife's nana was a school teacher as well. She and her husband saved their humble income and bought land decades ago. And when I started my business, she believed in me enough to sell her land and invest the money in my start-up.
    So, we can blow up the myth that I'm a self-made success. Sure, I had something to do with it, but I also had some serious help."
    The story goes on to talk about other forms of generational privilege, but you get the idea.
    On that note, we're certainly not going to resolve our differences of opinion here. The reality is that this tax has just upped the cost of the hobby.

    Because you wrote a thoughtful response I am not going to roast or denigrate your opinion. It is very obvious that we have completely different views on life and philosophy. There is nothing wrong with that. And I fully understand and even agree that things that people consider unremarkable such as your zip code that you were born in (education prospects, safety, access to infrastructure, etc) or even the month you were born in (huge impact for things like sports success in holding back your child to be bigger, stronger, and faster than their grade peers) give people all types of advantages that people never acknowledge.

    But their is one simple truth: You still have to put in the work to be successful. Most people equate that only with financial status but it is much broader than that. For some, it is creating a sense of self worth. For others, money. For others, it is something else. But just because you are born with advantages (or disadvantages), that does no guarantee success or failure. It is what you do with your skills and advantages (and disadvantages) that will determine your success and failure. These personal choices are what makes you self made. So for the active choices I have made in life, for the gumption I have shown, for learning from my successes and failures, and for everything else that I (and others with similar mindsets) have done in our pursuit of our dreams, I have no compunctions at all saying that I am self made, and I will not let anybody take that away from me.

    As for the hobby becoming more expansive: yep, it did. Shit happens.

    #299 74 days ago
    Quoted from KingPinGames:

    Lots to think about in 2019.

    Yeah like JAWS !!

    #300 74 days ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    Ya this is total bullshit, but like it’s been said, in the auto market it’s been enforced through registration. Private sales have no way of being enforced, so it never happens, although you’re supposed to report it on your taxes. No one ever dose.
    Now there will be enforcement for online sales.
    So, ya, double taxation is happening on the second hand market and is not right.
    I’d be cautious even posting a for sale add on pinside. Even if it’s a private sale, it’s been facilitated through the Internet on a public website. IRS catches a sale you didn’t report and I bet that won’t be a fun process.

    A couple of decades ago I worked for the IRS and at that time most of the investigators were paid bonus based on the size of the fine. Pinside is too small for them to chase hundreds when there are corporations doing millions in non-compliance. There is even a payday for the whistle blower, just recently a whistleblower received over a million for exposing a company non-compliance.

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    $ 4.95
    Apparel - Unisex
    ULEKstore
    $ 17.95
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    ULEKstore
    $ 4.00
    Electronics
    Professor Pinball
    $ 7.00
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    Pinball Z
    $ 45.00
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    Lermods
    $ 69.99
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    Lighted Pinball Mods
    $ 123.00
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    Lermods
    $ 29.99
    Cabinet - Sound/Speakers
    Lighted Pinball Mods
    $ 999.00
    Pinball Machine
    Mircoplayfields
    $ 62.00
    $ 29.99
    Cabinet - Sound/Speakers
    Lighted Pinball Mods
    € 6.50
    Flipper Parts
    Buthamburg
    $ 40.99
    Electronics
    PinballElectronics.com
    $ 149.00
    Playfield - Toys/Add-ons
    Sparky Pinball
    From: $ 130.00
    From: $ 99.99
    Cabinet - Other
    Lighted Pinball Mods
    From: $ 40.00
    Lighting - Interactive
    Professor Pinball
    $ 14.00
    Cabinet - Decals
    ModFather Pinball Mods
    $ 43.00
    Lighting - Led
    Pin Mods
    $ 999.00
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