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P3s are shipping! Lexy Lightspeed - Escape From Earth and
Cannon Lagoon ftw
Quoted from Whysnow:???
In this year alone my options of games to buy include:
Woz, Hobbit, Dialed in
Full Throttle, Aliens
Rob zombie, Dominos, Jestons, Alice Cooper
MMr, AFMr
Houdini?
Zombie Pitch and Bat
am I missing anything?
Quoted from Astropin:I have not been seriously interested in a JJP game yet. I mean they are nice to look at and built like tanks but so far have not done much for me.
People say this about the build but I do not see the quality. Most of the time when I encounter a jjp game in the wild it is broken.
Maybe I've just had a string of bad encounters and I'm sure people work out the kinks at home, but they've been broken or had big chunks of the art chipped off more often than not on route.
Quoted from Jeremy8419:If a company develops a platform for building homebrews, it would pretty much tank the opposite of that model, which is basically Stern from what I can gather.
Sounds like the P3, no?
Quoted from Jeremy8419:But like $150 for the main kit materials, a few hundred more for the playfield parts, usb cords, a few hundred more for the control box, a free app, a couple days on the weekend to assemble, and you have your own custom pinball machine
The P-Roc and P3-Roc hardware are really as close as you're going to get to that, for now anyways. The P3 platform with customizable slide-in assemblies and a rear module that you can customize on a work bench, plus an open software developer kit sounds pretty close to what you're asking for as well, or at least the closest that actually exists at this time. In the future, who knows?
USB sounds friendly but realistically it probably isn't going to work in an environment with any kind of EM interference and suffers from latency and addressing issues. 10 or 20 USB cables going back to some kind of hub sounds no bueno to me. No matter what you do you're also still going to need to deal with power supplies and driver circuits too, so you're back to these "analog wires".
Quoted from Jeremy8419:The USB seems like it would work to me. You'd just have to make sure all the stuff had adequate supports/suspensions. If they break after a while? Cords are cheap, and standardized parts would be cheap enough probably. They supply power, so they have the capabilities for that. The bunch of USB cords would just rely on building the hub capable of handling it to send a singular stream from there to the control box, which would basically be a mass manufacturered mini computer in a box specifically designed for such. Have like say 10 USBs per hub, a power cord for hub, an Ethernet between hub and control box, and potentially a few different tiers of control boxes that could handle more Ethernet connections to more than just one hub for an increase in price.
USB 3.0 supplies maximum 900 milliamps (.9A)per port. Flipper drive power for one flipper is usually 4A+ at 40-50V. Not even the same ballpark.
Even with a separate power supply, USB does not work reliably in environments with fluctuating magnetic fields (such as inside pinball machines).
I agree that it's a cool idea, it'd be awesome to see a plug-and-play platform.
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