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2016 Hobbit Update Thread

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#46 8 years ago

happy belated birthday JJP

From Pinball News

Date: 2nd January 2011, updated 21st January 2011

It's a headline we've used a few times over the years, while the companies and people concerned have enjoyed varying degrees of success.

But now coin-op manufacturer and retailer Jack Guarnieri has announced his plans to become the second US-based pinball maker.

Speaking on the Spooky Pinball podcast, Jack explained how he owns a number of companies, but is probably best known in the pinball world for his Lakewood, New Jersey-based Pinball Sales firm which has sold thousands of Stern pinballs around the world. Such was his influence, he was able to convince Gary Stern to re-make Lord of the Rings in a special limited edition version in 2009.

However, the decision by Stern Pinball to change their product to a sparser playfield design with simpler rules has hit Jack and Pinball Sales hard. Jack, who is also a Stern distributor, says his customers are educated buyers who enjoy mechanical toys and deep rules. Consequently, he was only able to sell nine of the recent Avatar limited edition machines in the run up to the holiday season. He said you have to make a product your customers like, not one you like.

With Stern as the only major manufacturer of pinball machines, Jack said there was no product left for him to sell, so he's been thinking about what to do about the situation for the past year, and decided to start making his own games.

His new company is to be called Jersey Jack Pinball and work is already underway on the first of the new titles which is to be based on the movie, The Wizard of Oz. Jack has secured a licence to produce both the pinball and a pusher using the Wizard of Oz property.

He said he wanted a theme which is universally acceptable and understood, doesn't offend anyone, provides lots of ideas for mechanical playfield devices, and provides very deep and rich content to be used in the game.

He already has the manufacturing capacity in the US with his Elaut USA company which makes assorted coin-op grabber, pusher and novelty games. He says they currently make more complicated products than a pinball machine, so manufacturing pinball should be no problem.

The Wizard of Oz pusher which is made by Elaut USA and was part of the licensing deal can be seen on the company's website.

The pinball game's designer is Joe Balcer, who also designed games for Stern/Sega/Data East from 1994 until 2003, including Apollo 13, South Park and The Simpsons Pinball Party, and has been working for Jack since May. No other details were released about who else is working on it but Jack hinted several well-known names are already on board to work on the project.

Producing a mechanically rich game with plenty of playfield toys and deep rules doesn't come cheap though. Jack wouldn't give an exact price at this stage but said it would be more than $4,000 but less than $10,000. There would be an initial run of 1,000 special edition 'Emerald City' models of the game, possibly with real emeralds and rubies.

But Jack is also looking beyond the first game to games two and three, and he wants to bring back non-licensed themes, saying the second game probably won't be licensed and game three might be.

He also offered the prospect of making the source code for the non-licensed games available to the pinball community so they could make their own versions, but he tempered that by saying the modified code would have to be uploaded to Jersey Jack Pinball so it could be compiled and then made available for machine owners to purchase, with some of the revenue returning to the new code's programmer.

Jack's plans have not been kept entirely under wraps. Many people knew parts of the story and of Jack's intentions, but this is the first official announcement. Jack told Gary Stern about his plans when the two of them met at the IAAPA trade show in November.

Gary has often said, if another pinball company starts up one of two things will happen - either they will lose a lot of money very quickly and go out of business, or they will take Stern Pinball down. Jack is hoping by appealing to the customers Stern are currently neglecting, he can fulfil and expand the demand for more complex, fully-featured pinball games. Although Gary doesn't think there is room for two pinball manufacturers, Jack says Gary's been wrong before.

Jack is keen to stress he has both the facilities, and the determination to make this new company happen. He says it a brand new venture, but the people involved are all experienced in producing fun games, and he's absolutely determined to succeed.

His timescale is to have Wizard of Oz on the market in time for the 2011 holiday season. It will be exported around the world and be fully RoHS-compliant.

Pinball News will be covering all the latest developments at Jersey Jack Pinball, and we'll be bringing you much more about the new Wizard of Oz game over the coming weeks and months.

#82 8 years ago
Quoted from RTS:

It kinda makes sense.
If production has really begun, why not show a picture of people working on an assembly line?

He did on dec 18

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#89 8 years ago
Quoted from PBINTHESOUTH:

My suspicion is this is still just pics of the same batch of 5-6 games collected together (as cabinets then) and still going thru painfully slow pre-production trial run (beta testing of production/units)..
It's now weekend January 9th... and at this pace no meaningful dent in production until at least Spring... almost 3 1/2 years after asking for money (which I gave Nov 2012... took out last May... and put a much smaller deposit down again in early December (and would still be able to get a game 1st up).. and now thinking of getting rid of that deposit... and just hoping theres a REAL production unit to play at TPF.. we'll see...

Shame on you from what I hear they will build 10 games a day

#125 8 years ago
Quoted from fatality83:

If that is the case, how long can a company stay in business operating this way. The only real way to do it that way would to be build the games and then announce them as being for sale. But still something has to happen, they need to pay the bills to keep the lights on

As Jack would say trust me

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#171 8 years ago
Quoted from DaveH:

Jack posted a video of a "cartwheel". He didn't quite get his feet straight up in the air, but he made a good attempt at it. With video of the truck pulling away.

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#175 8 years ago

Wow no news { Goodbye to WOZ Sub Assemblies, Hello to Hobbit Beast Mechs! } from JJP Facebook pg dec 1 after 6 weeks why no news

#239 8 years ago
Quoted from jackofdiamonds:

I'm a fan.Love WOZ.
Played a 2 ball intro game of TH and was blown away.This was 2 years ago!!!Its got the build quality of WOZ but the game flows.the sight lines and whatnot made it feel faster than WOZ.Throw in all the developments we've heard and seen since and I think this is a home run.
You could complain about the delay,its reasonable,but I find it hard to complain about any mechanical,design,art design or software issues(sounds as if its shipping complete)

You forgot the price point complaint it is out stated on every Stern game

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