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1976 Gottleib Pioneer

By e3thomas

7 months ago

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#1 7 months ago

Hello pinball friends

My chimes do not work on ABCDE lanes, thumper bumpers, rollovers

They work everywhere else

I put in a chime repair kit 3 mos. ago, everything was fine then

Help! Ron, pinball dummy

#2 7 months ago

1976 Gottlieb Pioneer

#3 7 months ago

do you get any score? if you manually operate the scoring relays in the head do your chimes function? Usually a dirty contact on the scoring relay(s)

#4 7 months ago

Scoring works fine!

#5 7 months ago

Which point amount gives score but no chime? 10, 100 or 1000?

#6 7 months ago

100 and the left drop targets

#7 7 months ago

Show us a picture of how it is wired up.

#8 7 months ago

Here ya go!

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#9 7 months ago

The chime box

#10 7 months ago

Look what I found, a wire came off the middle coil, problem solved!

Next question, the 4 rollovers do not light, but register points OK


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#11 7 months ago

The roll over lights are controlled by switches you will find them here
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#12 7 months ago

Thank you, let you know!


#13 7 months ago

One more thing, the rollovers light individually by going down the A B D or E lanes, the points register 100 or 500 ok, the rollovers do not light.

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#14 7 months ago

Check the switches

#15 7 months ago

have you checked to see if the bulbs are burned out?

#16 7 months ago

Yes, replaced them with LEDs a while back, will check them again.

#17 7 months ago

Ok, I worked on Pioneer today.

The 5 switches on the left of the bank control the rollovers, the left contact on each switch turns off the letter light on the playfield and turns on the rollover light.

I adjusted/cleaned all the switches, everything worked except for one, no voltage at the socket, I can address that later.

However the bank of switches pivots on a bracket, as I moved it back into place the lights flickered off and on.

I was having trouble getting it in place, gave up for the day.

I'm thinking some of my problems were caused by the switch cluster not being grounded properly.

Once I get it into place, we'll see!

#18 7 months ago

The reset bank can be touchy. And it needs to be seated squarely or you can get odd problems.

The secret is that the pivot is slotted. So you have to get it to clear the clamp points on the sides and seat into the frame. Once this is done you slide it forward(or back depending on your vantage point) into the slots on the frame. Then clamp down the wing nuts.

#19 7 months ago

OK, I did that

Everything works as it should, ABCDE lights go out, rollover value changes as each corresponding letter goes out.

However, no red rollover lights!

When I had the reset bank swing out the red lights did work sometimes as I moved the bank in various positions.


#20 7 months ago

More investigative work today, 3 broken wires were the problem!

Fixed 'em, good to go!

Thanks for all your input, pin ball guys!

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