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Led Zeppelin
Rotordave, 2019
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Quoted from FuryosJustin:That white looks so crisp bro. Clean as fuk
Love the "Yea, nah "chair!
The Yeh Nah chair is one of about 10 people have left at my place at various big pinball events - they leave them there and then when I have a big event I get them all out again and they use them again.
Welcome to RDs chair minding service. lol
rd
Nice work, dude! 
I love the crisp n clean black on white. Minimal and strong! Looking forward to the rest of the journey....
Salem, OR
Quoted from rotordave:AHHHHHHH AHH AHHHHHHHH AHHH!!
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So bad ass!
You gonna paint that tilt panel black?
So, what you see there is the test print I did on paper. It’s taped to the old broken Freedom backglass which is now held together with racing tape. Lol!
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Looks like all those measurements I did on the back side have paid off ...
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I cut out all the holes with the Stanley knife ...
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Here is the paper taped to the backglass - Brad has the reels pretty spot on!
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The lights on the back board will be moved to suit the new layout - the freedom light arrangement didn’t suit what we wanted to do, so Brad had free licence to do what he wanted! 
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Quoted from mrm_4:So bad ass!
You gonna paint that tilt panel black?
Hmmmm probably not. That’d mean I’d have to do the big relay panel too - ain’t nobody got time for dat! 
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Melbourne
Quoted from noob-a-tron:Damn nice work mate hopefully it motivates Stern
Cue another Whoa Nelly version ...
Whoa Nelly Big Juicy Zeppelin
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Quoted from noob-a-tron:I love how you have done the player 1-4 little things you have thought about are so cool.
That’s all on BradAlbright
I pointed him in the direction - and he ran with it. Looks pretty swish I reckon!
rd
Québec, QC
Quoted from rotordave:So, what you see there is the test print I did on paper. It’s taped to the old broken Freedom backglass which is now held together with racing tape. Lol!
rd
That backglass is incredible. My favorite homebrew with Hot Rod (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-hot-rod-a-tribute-to-classic-em-pinball) and I'm not a Zeppelin fan.
Quoted from PhilGreg:That backglass is incredible. My favorite homebrew with Hot Rod (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-hot-rod-a-tribute-to-classic-em-pinball) and I'm not a Zeppelin fan.
Well, as we know, pinball is all about the art these days (forget about gameplay or anything like that...) so thanks to Brad we are right on track!
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Quoted from rotordave:Well, as we know, pinball is all about the art these days (forget about gameplay or anything like that...) so thanks to Brad we are right on track!
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Thanks buddy! It looks amazing as it comes together. Appreciate your great direction and measurements at the outset! Can’t wait to see it with the playfield.
Quoted from PhilGreg:That backglass is incredible. My favorite homebrew with Hot Rod (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/gottlieb-hot-rod-a-tribute-to-classic-em-pinball) and I'm not a Zeppelin fan.
That’s a cool thread, hadn’t seen it before. Very similar to what I’m doing here. Thanks for posting it.
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Quoted from rotordave:Side rails ready to go back on.
Because the old holes are loose - could fill them but then you’re nailing into filler - I’m moving the rails back 1-2mm so they are nailing into fresh wood.
I have had good results with drilling the screw holes out much larger & filling them with epoxy. Place the siderail back on & drill small pilot holes for the nails. Works great.
Yesterday Jeremy finished the corrected playfield scans and layout, so it’s all coming together nicely.
Here’s the layout of the original Freedom playfield.
The plan was to riff on this for LZ to keep it in the 1976 vibe ... but Brad might have some different ideas ...
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Original -
For some reason I was thinking the playfeild was going to be black and white like the rest of the game.
Quoted from PoBoyPinball:For some reason I was thinking the playfeild was going to be black and white like the rest of the game.
That’s the original one .... new one isn’t done yet ...
rd
This thing is going to be sick when complete. Are you going to take it to any shows when it's complete so people can play it?
Have you considered having parts of the backglass mirrored? I’d be interested to know if this is something that is available for the hobbyist.
Quoted from VectorGamer:This thing is going to be sick when complete. Are you going to take it to any shows when it's complete so people can play it?
If the shows come to New Zealand, sure!
It’ll be well played in the competitions and events we have down here. Already slated to be in the Pincade Classics tournament next time around (we had 100 players in that comp this year ...)
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Quoted from cletus:Have you considered having parts of the backglass mirrored? I’d be interested to know if this is something that is available for the hobbyist.
Yeah - but I don’t think we can do it down here. Something I am working on at present.
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Quoted from rotordave:Yeah - but I don’t think we can do it down here. Something I am working on at present.
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I wonder how vinyl masking would hold up to this process:
https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Glass-Mirrors-With-Silver-Nitrate-Sugar-Am/
Quoted from cletus:I wonder how vinyl masking would hold up to this process:
https://www.instructables.com/id/Make-Glass-Mirrors-With-Silver-Nitrate-Sugar-Am/
I had a couple of ideas -
1/ use some mirror adhesive as used in Signwriting - cut it into thin strips and run it where necessary...
2/ I got some Mirror spray paint - think it was Krylon - when I was at Walmart. I’ve seen it on you tube and it has pretty good results, for something that comes out of a can. You’d print out the glass, leaving some lines blank, then mask it all up and hit it with the spray. I think it could work well. And if it didn’t, it wouldn’t be too noticeable ...
rd
2 weeks later
Hopefully the backglass will be in my hot little hands in the next day or two. The Easter holiday weekend has stuffed everyone up for the last week ...
Stand by!
rd
I have used mirror paint on my Meteor backglass and it turned out nice. Sorry no pictures of it, though.
Quoted from rotordave:That’s the original one .... new one isn’t done yet ...
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I'm picturing a huge Swansong, , ,
Quoted from rotordave:“AHHHHHHH AHH AHHHHHHHH .... AHHH!!”
I heard that as Mercyful Fate/King Diamond, funny...
-mof
Looking forward. I implore you to stick with black/grey/white playfield art and then go color inserts.
We've already seen from TZ and Munsters how awesome that can look.
More B+W pins = better !!!
It makes the inserts mean MUCH more, and it also brings more imagination to the experience.
-mof
Quoted from RonSS:I'm picturing a huge Swansong, , ,
That's already been done on Stu's Hammer of the Godz pin
HotG_Composit Glass (resized).jpgQuoted from RonSS:I'm picturing a huge Swansong, , ,
No SwanDude - I mentioned it at the beginning of the thread, the SwanDude was their record label SwanSongs logo, actually had nothing to do with Led Zeppelin, although later it got associated with the band.
The glass that is getting made is the glass version of Brads artwork, as per the paper mock-up a few posts ago.
Should have had it by now, but because we had 2 big public holidays very close together here in NZ, all the employees have taken the opportunity to skive off for a few weeks holidays. So hopefully I might get it this week. No stress.
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Fantastic job Dave and Brad! I slept through the last 4 months and missed the progress but that made reading the whole thread fun. It was like binging GOT, instant gratification. Can't wait to see her in action with the sounds. I vote for full black and white playfield with colored inserts.
The old playfield has trekked back 800km from Wellington. Thanks to Jeremy for his work and Mark for transporting it around the country for us!
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Next weekend I I’ll get on to sanding it back to the wood in preparation for its next life.
In other news, the backglass will be ready Monday our time, I’ll go get it Tuesday and report back.
rd
Will the layout remain the same? I ask because my brother has this game and I have wanted to add a sort of skill shot to it for years. His has a one way gate just above the right saucer so a weak plunge comes back down thru the right spinner. One if you move that gate to just below the saucer, that way if you like where the arrow is pointed on the center playfield wheel you can short plunge and it will roll back into the saucer and score it. For more difficulty dont move the gate but add another one way gate below the saucer. Now it will take a very accurate soft plunge to pass only the first gate and hit the saucer, any farther and it will go thru the second gate and fall back thru the right spinner.
Great theme, following.
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Quoted from swillie:I ask because my brother has this game
Your brother has the early production version!
Note the pop bumper between the flippers. They removed this and reverted to a normal bottom layout soon after production started. Your brothers game is sort after by some people!
Mine is the normal “Italian bottom” version.
I like your idea of the skill shot. Like Tron!
I am adding a 4th pop just under that hole.
The idea being:
1/ four pops for 4 band members.
2/ if you miss the bonus collect hole, you get punished! Lol
Work in progress!
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Quoted from rotordave:Your brother has the early production version!
Note the pop bumper between the flippers. They removed this and reverted to a normal bottom layout soon after production started. Your brothers game is sort after by some people!
Mine is the normal “Italian bottom” version.
I like your idea of the skill shot. Like Tron!
I am adding a 4th pop just under that hole.
The idea being:
1/ four pops for 4 band members.
2/ if you miss the bonus collect hole, you get punished! Lol
Work in progress!
rd
Okay I downloaded that pic to show my idea... he has the normal bottom like yours (sorry). Good eye, I didn't see that and had no idea there were two versions...wow mindblow.
Adding a forth pop, genius!!! Band members faces on the pops??? Spoiler alert, lol will wait and see what you have planned, awesome.
Quoted from swillie:Band members faces on the pops??? Spoiler alert
Spoiler alert - it’s all about the symbols. 
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