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1972 Midway Table Tennis

By Pmoore66

2 years ago


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    #1 2 years ago

    Pinside has many forum entries for Midway's 1972 Bullseye, the dart wall game, but I find very little published on Midway's Table Tennis game of the same year. Same concept, 2-player, either wireless or wired with long cords and a handle with a thumb button. Some came on free-standing stands with an integrated coinbox while others hung on the wall with a remote coinbox. I searched for a while as I really wanted to have a good example for my collection and I wanted a wireless version. The majority of my pins are 70's EMs so this arcade game was not far off. The simplicity and the classic art...I am also intrigued by the technology in the early wireless boxes.
    What follows is a bunch of pictures to help aide anyone else trying to resurrect one of these unique EM games from Midway. For additional info, check out chopperthedogs Table Tennis details at arcadecontrols.com(http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,148675.0.html)
    I followed up on a FB post from a dude in Vegas who said he couldn't give his away and didn't really know the condition because he never plugged it in but that he picked it up from an old arcade owner who had hung on to it long after his arcade closed down. All the components were there - it was calling out to me. Seller was exceptional to work with and let it go for a great price. Getting it from LV to a temp FL location was a nightmare of logistics(email babysitting, phone calls) with the shipping company - luckily they were very quick picking it up from the seller.
    Anyway, I received it and the shipper did a great job packing everything. I paid top-dollar for the shipping(~80lbs total) so I was pleased with the condition on arrival.
    Shipper's boxesShipper's boxes
    PackingPacking
    Game componentsGame components
    The desert heat has done a little number on the main wooden box but that is secondary right now to getting it up and tested.
    No keys, so the two locks on each side of the cabinet needed to be drilled out as well as the coinbox.
    external lock, both sides of cabinetexternal lock, both sides of cabinet
    internal view of lock claspinternal view of lock clasp
    lock post on backglass doorlock post on backglass door
    The backglass door is propped up by supports on the right and left which helps keep the door from twisting/warping unlike most pinball playfields from this era.
    Cabinet with door propped openCabinet with door propped open

    #2 2 years ago

    Awesome find!

    As a Bullseye owner, I always wanted to find table tennis, and golf.

    If you bring this back home, I’d love to play it.

    #3 2 years ago

    I was not able to find imagery for the wireless controllers online so here are some decent images...
    Here's the "Left Player"
    Left Player - GirlLeft Player - Girl
    Left gutsLeft guts

    Notice the date on the board. Both controllers had batteries labelled 11-8-73
    Orig batteriesOrig batteries

    2nd Player - Guy2nd Player - Guy
    Right gutsRight guts

    The antennae had a broken post that a soldered up
    SolderSolder

    Here's the current state before any clean up work:
    1. Powers on
    2. Coinbox doesn't add credit
    3. Activating the Credit relay adds a credit and starts motors running (these stay on after the game is locked on)
    4. Start relay begins the game and increments the game counter (1288 - I've probably added 10-15 games so it wasn't terribly popular)
    5. Lock Relay engages and the "Left Player Now Serving" light is lit.
    6. Both paddles are in their middle position and blinking but I don't have the manual with me to determine if that indicate it can't find the controllers - that's my latest theory. I might just use jumpers on the wired controller leads to see if that works.
    7. Manually engaging Left Player relay serves the ball quickly
    8. Manually engaging the Right player relay never "hits" the ball
    9. I have managed to get scores on both sides through manual relay triggering and when I hit 5 pts, the Game Over relay engaged.

    I plan to clean up all the molex connectors on every board and I have a feeling that the ball and paddle unit will need to be disassembled and cleaned up. I'll shine up the Jones plugs on the far left as well.

    So far I am encouraged...hoping that I can use the wireless controllers and that I don't have to replace board parts.
    More close-up pics of the cabinet interior and coin box soon.

    #4 2 years ago

    Also, forgot to mention the date sticker on the 2nd Player controller board.

    #5 2 years ago

    Very nice,
    I am really starting to appreciate
    This time period in Pinball and arcades

    #6 2 years ago

    Tonight’s update - cleaned the coin box connections so now the Credit and Start buttons are working. I will try to hack the wired connectors to see if that allows the paddles to work.
    I also cleaned and reseated the hit/miss and wireless board connections as well as the Jones plugs.
    Looking for some online resources to test these wireless boxes.

    #7 2 years ago

    I made some time to build two, inexpensive, wired button controllers from Lowes parts. Normally off, momentary buttons - only two left so they are mismatched - some thin outlet boxes, black face plates, and some lamp wire. ~$10 ea controller.
    Cheap wired controllersCheap wired controllers
    They did the trick and I am able to get the chick to serve and the dude to return but the animation is off a little…the ball travel lights are displaying the animation but the paddle animation is quite a bit behind on both players.
    For a 50 year old game, I am pleased with the progress so far.
    I’ll post a progress vid soon.

    1 year later
    #8 9 months ago

    Pmoore66 I'm working on a Table Tennis right now and am having trouble getting it to score. It is running and can be played with the remote controllers, but never scores and therefore never switches who serves. Any ideas where I might look first? Any help would be appreciated.

    #9 9 months ago

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/1972-midway-bullseye-wall-game-repair-and-restoration

    They are the same game with only cosmetic differences. You can use the Bullseye schematic listed above. If you have the coils labeled, you can manually activate them and watch what happens.

    #10 9 months ago

    Clean and check the gap on your relays. Look for any black spots where the relay contacts have burned. Timing is everything on this game.

    #11 9 months ago
    Quoted from FUNWIZ:

    Clean and check the gap on your relays. Look for any black spots where the relay contacts have burned. Timing is everything on this game.

    Thanks. I actually found out that the control board by the scoring motor had a crack running through all of traces. I jumped those traces and that fixed the scoring, but I'm still having issues with it changing who serves.

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