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1972 Fireball puts 2 balls in shooter lane at once

By eju201

7 years ago


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#14 6 years ago

Okay, I'm going to resurrect this thread, as I have the same issue with my Fireball as the OP, but didn't see a solution posted.

To re-cap: At the start of a game, only one ball is put into the shooter lane. Everything works as it should during game play. If you lock a ball in the Odin or Wotan scoop, two balls are released into the shooter lane--one at a time--the ball release solenoid fires two separate time.

For trouble shooting, here's what I've got so far:
-This happens with Odin or Wotan Hole. They both exhibit the same behavior.
-With no balls in the trough (and a ball locked in Odin or Wotan), I can manually close #1 trough switch, and the ball release solenoid will fire continuously.
-The ball trough switches are gapped rather far, but still have a nice wiping motion when activated.
-The trough is clean, and the balls roll down freely, with no hesitation.
-There is not a hold relay for multi-ball as shown in 4MBC.
-I have visually checked the Odin & Wotan relay, and all switched appear to be in proper working order (although I did not use a meter to confirm)

So, what should the next steps be?

Thanks

#16 6 years ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

I would turn the game off and unplug it, then put a meter on the trough switches and activate them with a ball to see if one of them isn't working.

Sure, I'll give that a try tonight.

However, since it doesn't happen at the start of a game (when all 3 balls are in the trough), I can't see how a non working trough switch would only show during a ball lock. But then again, I still struggle with schematics so I could be missing something simple.

#18 6 years ago

We have a winner!!!

I started checking continuity on the trough switches. Everything was okay, until the trough got bumped or a switch activated.
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I removed all the switches from the trough and everything checked out properly. Upon further examination, I found that the fish paper was shifted, causing the wire switch to make contact with the leaf of the switch, shorting it to the other switches.
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I tried loosening switch stack and moving the fish paper, but it didn’t seem to be wide enough. So my solution was to add some heat shrink to the wire switch.
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And problem solved. Odin and Wotan are now behaving properly.

Thanks all for the insight everybody!!

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