(Topic ID: 255055)

1970s Spinning wheel EM


By Classicpinballs

3 months ago



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    #1 3 months ago

    I have the option to buy this. Does anyone know a thing about the manufacturer or if it uses WMS or Gottlieb parts? I believe that it was built in Spain but theres little info on IPDB about it. I'm nervous in buying it but then cant find parts for it. If I do though, then I'll supply ipdb with as much info on it as I can. Thanks!

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    #2 3 months ago

    I updated our listing just now with a modest bit of info. Not enough to help you, sorry. If you can, try to get a focused close up of the metal Inspection Plate that should be affixed to the upper left corner of the playfield. If not there, then somewhere on the cabinet, maybe. It looks like this:

    https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4610&picno=55200

    It can tell us stuff. Then please shoot me an email as I was just passing by this thread and may not be back if you were to post it only here.

    Thank you.

    #3 3 months ago

    Hi Classicpinballs +
    the following I did write not knowing post-2.

    Hi Classicpinballs
    answer Yourself my questions.
    Is it a "hurry - hurry" deal ? (if "Yes" then back out --- I have learned in such deals I am Mr. Stupid)
    Is there a schematics with the pin ? Is there a manual ? (I would not buy an exotic pin - no schematics with it)
    Do You want to keep the pin for You ? (If "Yes" - is it attractive or just a rare pin ?)
    Do You want to do some work - restoration - then sell it ? (If "Yes" - could You ever sell an rare pin ?)

    ipdb - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6402 does not have much information. They mention "Petaco" was the name for (spanish) domestic games and "Recel" was the name for export games --- Petaco-King-Game is a clone of Gottlieb-High-Hand, the schematics of Recel-Underwater shows an Gottlieb like Score-Motor but the operating Voltage is 28 VAC or 30VAC, the same with Recel-Top-Speed.
    The company "Automaticos" (Talleres ...) made some pins https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?gtype=EM&mfgid=188&sortby=date&searchtype=advanced , Flamenco Show: https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5272 - ipdb has some pictures - https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=5272&picno=40053&zoom=1 Interlock-Type Relays, wrapping paper and coils ?
    Whenever it comes to "Spanish Pins" I then visit http://www.tecnopinball.org/doc_biblioteca.php - they do talk with foreigners in english (I once had a EMail-Talk with them) - want to write to them - asking questions --- maybe they know a spanish person "eager to buy the 'Spinning Wheel' " and You just help with the deal - making some money for Your help (?). Greetings Rolf

    #4 3 months ago
    Quoted from I_P_D_B:

    I updated our listing just now with a modest bit of info. Not enough to help you, sorry. If you can, try to get a focused close up of the metal Inspection Plate that should be affixed to the upper left corner of the playfield. If not there, then somewhere on the cabinet, maybe. It looks like this:
    https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=4610&picno=55200
    It can tell us stuff. Then please shoot me an email as I was just passing by this thread and may not be back if you were to post it only here.
    Thank you.

    Ok, thank you for the info. The machine itself is some 300 miles away from me so I cant access it at present. I have spoken to the owner and he has no documents for it though the serial number on it is J70010. He doesn't use the internet, cell phones, or computers so I am reliant on a relative of his to help me. I will ask for an image of the plate and images of the rest of it so ar least there is a record of it, if I dont end up with it. I will send an email asap. Thanks!

    #5 3 months ago
    Quoted from rolf_martin_062:

    Hi Classicpinballs +
    the following I did write not knowing post-2.
    Hi Classicpinballs
    answer Yourself my questions.
    Is it a "hurry - hurry" deal ? (if "Yes" then back out --- I have learned in such deals I am Mr. Stupid)
    Is there a schematics with the pin ? Is there a manual ? (I would not buy an exotic pin - no schematics with it)
    Do You want to keep the pin for You ? (If "Yes" - is it attractive or just a rare pin ?)
    Do You want to do some work - restoration - then sell it ? (If "Yes" - could You ever sell an rare pin ?)
    ipdb - https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=6402 does not have much information. They mention "Petaco" was the name for (spanish) domestic games and "Recel" was the name for export games --- Petaco-King-Game is a clone of Gottlieb-High-Hand, the schematics of Recel-Underwater shows an Gottlieb like Score-Motor but the operating Voltage is 28 VAC or 30VAC, the same with Recel-Top-Speed.
    The company "Automaticos" (Talleres ...) made some pins https://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?gtype=EM&mfgid=188&sortby=date&searchtype=advanced , Flamenco Show: https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=5272 - ipdb has some pictures - https://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=5272&picno=40053&zoom=1 Interlock-Type Relays, wrapping paper and coils ?
    Whenever it comes to "Spanish Pins" I then visit http://www.tecnopinball.org/doc_biblioteca.php - they do talk with foreigners in english (I once had a EMail-Talk with them) - want to write to them - asking questions --- maybe they know a spanish person "eager to buy the 'Spinning Wheel' " and You just help with the deal - making some money for Your help (?). Greetings Rolf

    Hi, Rolf. Thanks for replying.
    I will keep this topic alive and put more information up as I get it. From speaking with the owner earlier today, he is now keen to have it repaired and overhauled and keep it instead, providing spares can be obtained of course. He last played it some 25 years ago! And thank you for that Spanish link, some very good information there.

    #6 3 months ago

    I love it when some "new" old european manufacturer EM pinball machine is uncovered
    never seen before or learn a bit more about pieces of the puzzle.

    1 week later
    #7 3 months ago
    Quoted from pinwiztom:

    I love it when some "new" old european manufacturer EM pinball machine is uncovered
    never seen before or learn a bit more about pieces of the puzzle.

    Yes indeed. I spoke to the owner yesterday and he is having more detailed images done of it so that they can go onto ipdb. He thinks there is also a paper document bag somewhere for that has a wiring diagram ( probably a schematic) so fingers crossed that he finds it. E evidently, all the coul wrappers are present and unburnt though he thinks they are in Spanish but they are probably ok and it's not too difficult to make another anyway.
    I'll let you know asap.

    3 weeks later
    #8 82 days ago
    Quoted from Classicpinballs:

    Yes indeed. I spoke to the owner yesterday and he is having more detailed images done of it so that they can go onto ipdb. He thinks there is also a paper document bag somewhere for that has a wiring diagram ( probably a schematic) so fingers crossed that he finds it. E evidently, all the coul wrappers are present and unburnt though he thinks they are in Spanish but they are probably ok and it's not too difficult to make another anyway.
    I'll let you know asap.

    A quick update. I spoke to the owner on Friday. He doesn't do the internet, email, nor does he own a digital camera! So he is trying to get a friend to go and take images to forward to me. Hopefully, it will sooner rather than later!

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