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1966 Gottlieb - Hyde Park "Any Owners"?

By Mopar

6 years ago


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#1 6 years ago

Having a couple other Gottlieb true multiplayer Add-a-Balls from the 60s,
I plan on trading in a Hyde Park. I've heard from Mayfair Owners that they
appreciate their machine, so I'm sure Hyde Park would also be an enjoyable
player, but wouldn't mind hearing from any possible Hyde Park owners..
Other than the Italian version (also named Hyde Park), there's only a couple
pics of the machine on IPDB which makes me wonder if most of the 951 that
were produced was the Italian version.. (T)

#2 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

I plan on trading in a Hyde Park.

I'm not sure if you are saying you own one and will be trading it, or if you will be trading to receive one.

I don't know why we have so few pictures of the USA version. If you have or will have the USA version, we would appreciate your pictures for the IPDB. Especially a close-up for the USA version that shows the area as seen on the Italian version here:

http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=5678&picno=49484

Thank you,

Jay
IPDB

#3 6 years ago

Yes, I guess that could be a little deceiving. What I meant is that I'm soon getting
in a Hyde Park. It's a pretty nice one and will take pics..
Lariat (another true Add-a-Ball) which I have (and had a chance to get in another),
only had a production run of 150, and 1964 Big Top had a 750 run and see a few
have that machine, and outside the other on IPDB, I don't know of another Hyde Park
which gets me thinking the 951 produced may have been US and Italian versions combined..
Being in N.Y., I've ran into many low production Add-a-Ball machines, but not true
with Hyde Park.. (T)

#4 6 years ago

Did a quick scan for Hyde Park.

On the Internet Pinball Serial Number Data Base. There are no registered serial numbers.
On Pinside, only 2 topics for that game are mentioned.
One Pinsider owns a Hyde Park. He has not been on Pinside since Feb. 6 2015.

#5 6 years ago
Quoted from Darcy:

He has not been on Pinside since Feb. 6 2015.

The present owner (a Friend) of this Hyde Park picked it up within' the past year..
Do you recall if it mentioned where the ex-pinsider was from? Most likely not, but
maybe the same game..

#6 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

The present owner (a Friend) of this Hyde Park picked it up within' the past year..
Do you recall if it mentioned where the ex-pinsider was from? Most likely not, but
maybe the same game..

https://pinside.com/pinball/community/pinsiders/capecodder

#7 6 years ago

Thanks..

#8 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Yes, I guess that could be a little deceiving. What I meant is that I'm soon getting
in a Hyde Park. It's a pretty nice one and will take pics..
Lariat (another true Add-a-Ball) which I have (and had a chance to get in another),
only had a production run of 150, and 1964 Big Top had a 750 run and see a few
have that machine, and outside the other on IPDB, I don't know of another Hyde Park
which gets me thinking the 951 produced may have been US and Italian versions combined..
Being in N.Y., I've ran into many low production Add-a-Ball machines, but not true
with Hyde Park.. (T)

Thanks for the info and the willingness to send us pictures. We always ask everyone that, whenever possible, to use a regular digital camera instead of a camera phone, for best quality. I'd also like to know your serial number. In fact, I can (or you can) send in a readable close-up image of your cabinet serial number to the IPSND.net to compare to a second one if ever a second one arrives there.

Jay

#9 6 years ago

I'll get an assortment of pics including the cabinet's serial number.
Busy this month, but plan on having it by the middle of June. Trading
it in for a project Subway which is another I haven't ran into often
considering 3,200 were produced. I'm thinking many of them may have
been Italian exports.. (T)

3 months later
#10 6 years ago

Well, today I finally got around to trading in (for my extra Subway) the Hyde Park
which was an enjoyable 1hr. 40 min. trip to a Pinball Pals traveling through N.Y.s Southern
Tier and Winery country..
Hyde Park, which is the true 2 player Add-a-Ball to Mayfair, was an Italian export (with
evidently a very few U.S. versions produced), is one of the few true 2 player Gottlieb Add-a-
Balls from the 60s. This is one we may not see again. I have never seen an Italian version
(which is the same game, but has some added Italian writing on the backglass) not alone
a U.S. version. She's in pretty decent shape so I took some pics which Jay (IPDB) was
interested in seeing and certainly has my permission to use..
The serial number isn't the best, but is readable which is "01014"
The paper works envelope was still attached to the inside of the back door with the schematic inside..
If anyone has either version of Hyde Park, I'd have interest in knowing.. (T)
Also, Hyde Park's production in Mr. Pinball's price guide is listed "August 1966". This U.S. version's
schematic is "March 1966"..

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#11 6 years ago

Here's an added pic which shows all of the playfield..

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#12 6 years ago

That is way cool, Tim! I have never seen that style of card tray before. And... it's a test sample game to boot! Great find. I wonder if anyone, anywhere has one of these. Now I definitely have to come up there sometime. Give me notice of your next gathering.

#13 6 years ago

Nice game That playfield has looks like it has low plays on it and or it was maintained. Enjoy!

#14 6 years ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

I have never seen that style of card tray before.

Damm Joe. Must be you know your card trays. At first, I wasn't sure what you
were talking about, so went downs stairs and sure enough, the machines with
the yellow and blue had the word Flipper above Buttons, and the trays without
the word Flipper, has red replacing the yellow. It must be the U.S. Hyde Park
was in between eliminating the word Flipper, and changing the yellow to red..
On IPDB, there is a couple of pics of a non-Italian Hyde Park but looks like pics
from pics. Somewhat blurry with shadows. Nothing one would send in for display
if they had a choice. That one does have the blue/yellow card tray and is listed
August 1966, but having that tray, it has to be before June 1966 as mine is.
Italian version Hyde Park is June 1966 with blue/red card tray. Mayfair (June 1966)
has even a different tray (?).
Yeah, I'm not sure where I'm placing it, but I'm going to have it set up in the
Game Room. The next Pinball/Arcade gathering is in Feb., but by any chance
you're in the area before that, give me a bit of a heads up and you're always
welcome.. (T)

#15 6 years ago
Quoted from Vic_Camp:

That playfield has looks like it has low plays on it and or it was maintained.

Yeah, the playfield has a little upper ball arch wear, but not bad.
A quarter in the coin return dated 1967, doesn't mean much, but
the display window has 25 cents - 2 plays, kind of seems the machine
was yet out in the early 70s..
I'm sure that it spent its life here in N.Y. once it left Illinois.
I'm going to see about maybe finding more out on its history.. (T)

#16 6 years ago

That's a great find! I have Mayfair but gave never seen one of these.

I'm surprised none seemed to make it over to the UK seeing as it's a London based theme. ( Hyde park is in the Mayfair district of London. Perhaps the most expensive part of London too)

#17 6 years ago

That's something I hadn't known. There is a Hyde Park, N.Y.,
but couldn't relate it to anything. So Hyde Park is actually a park in London..
Seems pinball can be educational.. (T)

#18 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

so I took some pics which Jay (IPDB) was
interested in seeing and certainly has my permission to use..
The serial number isn't the best, but is readable which is "01014"

You emailed me some additional pics so I selected from the entire bunch and have posted them on the IPDB:

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1258

Your stamped serial number has an 'S' at the end. The full number for your Sample game is 01014 S.

What a beautiful example of this game, and a Sample one to boot.

Jay

#19 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

That's something I hadn't known. There is a Hyde Park, N.Y.,
but couldn't relate it to anything. So Hyde Park is actually a park in London..
Seems pinball can be educational.. (T)

Indeed! Look at this map:
https://www.doogal.co.uk/StationMap.php?station=Hyde%20Park%20Corner
You will see the US embassy on that map, between the park and the Mayfair section.

#20 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

That's something I hadn't known. There is a Hyde Park, N.Y.,
but couldn't relate it to anything. So Hyde Park is actually a park in London..
Seems pinball can be educational.. (T)

Many place names around here have origins from elsewhere, particularly European localities and American Indian names.
In NY, many are spelled the same, but pronounced differently. Cairo is pronounced "KAY-ro", and Milan is pronounced "MILE-un".
Hyde Park is of course, pronounced the same.

#21 6 years ago
Quoted from Vintage-Pinball:

You will see the US embassy on that map, between the park and the Mayfair section.

Yup, and now I'll know the meaning of the machine that I'm
playing. I also looked it up. A 350 acre park with several
attractions. I would have never known..

#22 6 years ago

And just quickly, up the road to Regents park (another Royal park) the US ambassador has it's residency there ( well, it used to anyway as I've been there, many moons ago)

Meanwhile, back to the pinball planet...

1 month later
#23 6 years ago

I have a fully populated Hyde Park playfield that I picked up on Ebay and turned into a coffee table. Reading all of the comments about the fun game play, I am thinking I might have to add a P3ROC or Fast controller and bring this thing back from the dead. If I can find a 1960's Gottlieb donor cabinet, I might give it a shot.

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#24 6 years ago
Quoted from entomophile:

I have a fully populated Hyde Park playfield that I picked up on Ebay

Yeah, looks to be an U.S. version also.
The playfield that I have is fine, but if you ever like
to trade the playfield that you have, I would have
interest..
Have you takin' off the upper apron and checked the number? (T)

#25 6 years ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Have you takin' off the upper apron and checked the number? (T)

It's #239.

#26 6 years ago

The same number on my schematic. Must be the common #
for the sample. I'm thinking the playfield that I have will also
read 239. I'll be finding out later in the Winter..

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