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1965 Gottlieb Bank-A-Ball & Flipper Pool Club - Welcome

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#101 1 year ago

Kim Oswald of the Goat Shed Facebook group posted this video to EM Pinball Facebook group.

#102 1 year ago

There was a thread a few years ago about replacing those balls:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mounting-bank-a-ball-balls

#103 1 year ago

Thanks for the link. I have all the balls but still need to do some repairs on my BaB.

#104 1 year ago

Greetings from Canada. Have owned this beautiful example of Flipper Pool since late last year. You may be able to tell from the pic that for a while, I had both Bank-A-Ball and Flipper Pool but have since sold the Bank-A-Ball. We decided that we play Flipper Pool more (the AAB is more fun at our house). The Bank-A-Ball was nice and had a pretty nice repainted cabinet (not original look). It was also missing all the pool balls. The Flipper Pool is in it's original glory and has all the pool balls save for #3 but I do have the replacement from PBR. Now to figure out how to install it. The Goatshed video will help a lot. Fun game.........hard to master but my wife has the high-score at our house.

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#105 1 year ago

That playfield looks to be in really nice shape! Good for you! That was my first pin, and replacing a broken billiard ball was my first EM repair. If I can do it, you can do it. I still love that animation!

#106 1 year ago

Anyone notice anything about Bank-a-Ball/Flipper Pool's backglass that maybe
may be a little questionable?

#107 1 year ago

I can't see anything....gonna tell us?

#108 1 year ago

PinballFever I saw awhile back you repainted your cabinet. If you are up for sharing your colors I might think about doing my cabinet next year. I’ve owned my game for 6 months and still haven’t turned it on. This is going to be a 2022 project for sure and it’s going to be a keeper.

#109 1 year ago

EJS I haven't repainted my cabinet yet. Maybe this spring.

#110 1 year ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Anyone notice anything about Bank-a-Ball/Flipper Pool's backglass that maybe
may be a little questionable?

Maybe that two couples are dancing while the dude is getting a record ready to play? But maybe he’s just queuing up the next hits while the music’s already jumpin’.

#111 1 year ago
Quoted from Mopar:

Anyone notice anything about Bank-a-Ball/Flipper Pool's backglass that maybe
may be a little questionable?

I'll take a stab at it. One couple is dancing like it's rock and roll, and the other couple is slow dancing.
Is that it?

#112 1 year ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

One couple is dancing like it's rock and roll, and the other couple is slow dancing.

Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding.. The Knowledgeable Master of Vintage Pinball Machines got it..
Yup. Without seeming odd, what song from the mid-60s era (or 50s) can be both fast and slow
danced to? For me, not any come to mind (at least not from the exact same portion of the song)..

#113 1 year ago

Never noticed it before, but after you mentioned that there was something odd about the backglass scene, I figured I'd give it a critical look.
Ok, so here's another one. What's odd about the total art package on Gottlieb''s "Show Boat"? Photos can be seen on ipdb.

#114 1 year ago
Quoted from jrpinball:

What's odd about the total art package on Gottlieb''s "Show Boat"?

Total meaning including the playfield?
The backglass I haven't noticed anything. The playfield, the Guys are dressed as if
it's in the 50s, the Ladies as if it's in the 80s, but referring it as the total package,
I'd say that's not the correct answer..
I never had that game. Perhaps someone who has/had one may have a better guess..

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#115 1 year ago

How much should I expect to pay for an average or below average condition Bank A Ball or Flipper Pool these days? I am considering getting my first Wedge Head and I'm keeping my eye out for one of these two machines.

#116 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

How much should I expect to pay for an average or below average condition Bank A Ball or Flipper Pool these days? I am considering getting my first Wedge Head and I'm keeping my eye out for one of these two machines.

That’s such a tough question these days even EMs are not immune to prices going up. Any working wedgehead is an easy $600 or $700 I’d say. You can find them for less.

Some of our local pinheads are still true to the older pricing and have sold some non working games around 300 or 400

Bank a ball is supposed to be a good game. I wouldn’t know since I haven’t played one. Yet I’ve owned one for almost a year. Completely gone through and cleaned I’d say $1000 is fair but I wouldn’t go much higher than that.

Keep in mind the billiard balls in the backbox are like $30 each from Pinball Resource

#117 1 year ago

There’s one listed near me for $900. The cabinet looks really rough and ther playfield photos are terrible. Really all the photos are bad. I looks like a $450 machine to me. If it’s still around after Christmas I might have to go look at it in person.

#118 1 year ago
Quoted from TeaHaus:

Greetings from Canada. Have owned this beautiful example of Flipper Pool since late last year. You may be able to tell from the pic that for a while, I had both Bank-A-Ball and Flipper Pool but have since sold the Bank-A-Ball. We decided that we play Flipper Pool more (the AAB is more fun at our house). The Bank-A-Ball was nice and had a pretty nice repainted cabinet (not original look). It was also missing all the pool balls. The Flipper Pool is in it's original glory and has all the pool balls save for #3 but I do have the replacement from PBR. Now to figure out how to install it. The Goatshed video will help a lot. Fun game.........hard to master but my wife has the high-score at our house.
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That is a CRAZY good score. I have a Flipper Pool and I think the current high is in the high 3's...

#119 1 year ago
Quoted from DanMarino:

There’s one listed near me for $900. The cabinet looks really rough and ther playfield photos are terrible. Really all the photos are bad. I looks like a $450 machine to me. If it’s still around after Christmas I might have to go look at it in person.

If the playfield is good and the game is mostly intact i'd go for it. The layout is awesome and in your face. When shopped it'll be a butt-kicker!

#120 1 year ago
Quoted from DK:

If the playfield is good and the game is mostly intact i'd go for it. The layout is awesome and in your face. When shopped it'll be a butt-kicker!

I communicated with the guy and offered $500-$700 depending on the condition that it looked like if I go see it in person. They mentioned that one recently sold on ebay for $2000 or more. Whatever. They can go sell it on ebay if they think they will get that much. From the terrible photos, the paint on the sides of the cabinet and head looks terrible. The playfield and backbox photos aren't clear and are dark. They have a photo with the machine on and some of the pool balls down in the head. It supposedly works. They are apparently selling for a friend, so will get back to me after talking to them. I don't have high hopes.

#121 1 year ago

Just in case anyone may need one, PBR has one Shay repro "Flipper Pool" backglass for sale.

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#122 1 year ago
Quoted from DK:

That is a CRAZY good score. I have a Flipper Pool and I think the current high is in the high 3's...

Yes, she's proud of it, I think it was her 2nd or 3rd game. Closest I've got is 6800........it's going to be a tough one to beat but I try at least once per day!!

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#123 8 months ago

Hello!

Just got a Flipper Pool in excellent condition. It had been sitting in someone's basement for about 20 years. Most everything is working except for a few problems.

I need to replace all the rubber and many of the lights are burned out, missing or the bulb sockets need to be cleaned.

I have several problems with the machine and hope someone here can help me resolve them.

1. On the card it says "Hitting 15 numbers resets pool ball rack". In testing the machine with the glass off - after hitting all 15 numbers nothing happens. All 15 balls stay down and the machine doesn't re-rack/reset the balls at the top. Is there one more switch or target you need to hit to have the pool ball rack reset? Is there a switch or relay underneath I should check for pool ball rack reset? After reading about this machine I am glad that it still has all the plastic pool balls that appear at the top as you hit the numbers.

2. When I hit the special it scores 100, but I don't hear a bell. Is there a switch I should check for the 100 bell on the two specials?

3 When I hit the number 9 the ball drops at the top but the light doesn't go out. What switch would I check for that?

4. Sometimes I've gotten a few free balls on my first ball out of the gate. I'm not sure what target is giving me the free ball. . .

Thank you!

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#124 8 months ago
Quoted from Pookiegus:

I have several problems with the machine and hope someone here can help me resolve them.

It sounds like most of the problems you're having is in the Pool Ball Bank.
You'll want to inspect the cap on those Realy switches.
For example, when you hit the #9 and the light doesn't go out is because most
likely when the #9 Relay is energized, a switch isn't opening to break the #9
light socket's circuit that should be. I'll have to look to make sure, but I believe
there's a series of switches (one in each Pool Ball Relay) that close when the
Relays trip (energize), When all Pool Ball Relays are tripped (made) it completes
the circuit to reset the Bank. It could be a couple other things besides a switch(s)
in one of the Relay(s), but it's always a good idea to inspect the gap in those switches
anyways (and some switches may need light cleaning. I use a point file)
NOTE: Before Opening The Pool Balls' Relay Bank, Always Manually Reset The
Bank So All The Pool Balls Are Reset. Not Any Are Down. This prevents Them from
breaking..
btw: You sometimes get free balls on your 1st ball. There's an adjustment (I believe
on the bottom board) that can be set for a free ball after so many balls are hit (made).
I think my machine is set so hitting 8, 11, 14, and 15 each scores a free ball.

#125 8 months ago

There is a stepper unit on motor board panel which keeps track of pool balls achieved, it that is not well aligned,it won`t award the proper awards....

#126 8 months ago
Quoted from pintoys:

There is a stepper unit on motor board panel which keeps track of pool balls achieved, it that is not well aligned,it won`t award the proper awards....

Yes- misalignment of disk and sweeper is the problem! Howard helped me last night identify what was causing the problem. Now I just have to figure out how to align it properly as the disk has three screws but is adjusted all the way as far as it can go. I'm thinking of making each adjustment channel a little bit longer

#127 8 months ago
Quoted from Pookiegus:

Now I just have to figure out how to align it properly

I would loosen the allen screw, then turn it a little clockwise, tighten, then loosen the 3
screws and align properly by turning it counter-clockwise, tighten 3 screws, and you're
good to go..
Sorry about thinking the pool ball relays were in series to reset the Bank. I think it was
13 years ago I went through the Flipper Pool..

#128 8 months ago
Quoted from Mopar:

I would loosen the allen screw, then turn it a little clockwise, tighten, then loosen the 3
screws and align properly by turning it counter-clockwise, tighten 3 screws, and you're
good to go..
Sorry about thinking the pool ball relays were in series to reset the Bank. I think it was
13 years ago I went through the Flipper Pool..

Thanks! I was able to fix the alignment using this method.

Now I just have to figure out why the score bells aren't ringing when I hit ball #6

#129 8 months ago
Quoted from Pookiegus:

Now I just have to figure out why the score bells aren't ringing when I hit ball #6

That's strange. So the bells aren't ringing on #6 when scoring 50 points, the 100 points (when Mystery Score is lit),
or both, yet the points are scoring okay? Does the bells ring okay when hitting the #14 Rollover?

#130 8 months ago
Quoted from Mopar:

That's strange. So the bells aren't ringing on #6 when scoring 50 points, the 100 points (when Mystery Score is lit),
or both, yet the points are scoring okay? Does the bells ring okay when hitting the #14 Rollover?

O.K. I figured it out. After tracing the circuit for the 100 bell I realized it wasn't even hooked up! Now that it's hooked up it works great!

Everything is working now!

I've noticed there are some patches inside the machine for 1000-5000 in the back and some others in the bottom. Can someone tell me what they do?

#131 8 months ago
Quoted from Pookiegus:

O.K. I figured it out. After tracing the circuit for the 100 bell I realized it wasn't even hooked up! Now that it's hooked up it works great!
Everything is working now!
I've noticed there are some patches inside the machine for 1000-5000 in the back and some others in the bottom. Can someone tell me what they do?

Nice sleuthing! Great game to cut your teeth on. The patches you mention are for setting the score/pool ball count threshold(s) for awarding extra balls.

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#133 8 months ago
Quoted from SilverLiningMan:

Nice sleuthing! Great game to cut your teeth on. The patches you mention are for setting the score/pool ball count threshold(s) for awarding extra balls.

What do most people have their patches set at?

Mine appears to be set to 2000, 3000,4000, & 5000 in the back and 8,9,10,11 in the cabinet for free balls

#134 8 months ago

Mine's almost like yours - 2K to 5K in the back. I have the targets set at 9,11,13,14 for extra balls. I'm happy with how it awards extra balls.

#135 8 months ago

Mine is set for 2K and 4K, and 10, 14, and 15 balls. It’s fun to experiment to find a mix you enjoy.

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#136 5 months ago

Does anyone have pictures of the labels/information cards that are in the backbox and cabinet for Bank a Ball? If would you mind sharing?

Thanks,
Phil

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#137 5 months ago

Here's a few I have in my BaB...

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#138 5 months ago

Thank you very much DaMoib! Really appreciate you taking the time to share the pictures.

Phil

#139 5 months ago
Quoted from DaMoib:

Here's a few I have in my BaB...
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Never seen that 7th label regarding light box cabling previously. Thks.

#140 5 months ago
Quoted from BleacherBum:

Thank you very much DaMoib! Really appreciate you taking the time to share the pictures.
Phil

Phil,

I should thank you as well! Since I rolled BaB out of the lineup for the photos, I decided to solve another minor "issue" - I have all my machines on wifi smart plugs and when I say "Alexa, turn on pinball!", one sad, still dark machine would not obey until its replay button was pressed... so I decided to jumper the "R" relay switch and allow the whole gameroom to light up on command.

Larry

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#141 4 months ago

I’m contemplating buying this great title in the near future. Does anyone have a nice original back glass for sale?

#142 4 months ago
Quoted from Budman:

I’m contemplating buying this great title in the near future. Does anyone have a nice original back glass for sale?

I might still have a spare Bank-a-ball glass bug will need to check. I know that I definitely have schematics & S/I cards.

Also, I have 2 complete pretty nice Flipper Pools which are available and several schematics!

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