(Topic ID: 210518)

1964 GTB Bowling Queen backglass - Ron Webb rescreen list


By Model237

1 year ago



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  • Latest reply 4 days ago by Ballypalooza
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#1 1 year ago

Just got a Bowling Queen with a roached BG (from the Tulsa auction).

I think Ron Webb has done these before, but no more in stock.

He said, "Bowling Queen is not on our list to redo however I will start a list in case I change my mind."

Anyone need one?

#2 1 year ago

I'm in Australia but I would have one.

#3 1 year ago

Paja, I'm willing to take receipt for you and ship to Australia (Ron won't ship overseas). I can add a second box with more padding, make a plywood box or whatever you like. Having already received another glass from Ron, I can attest he packages them very nicely.

I sent out some emails on pinballowners.com; heard back from "cpiel" - now there are three people interested. Will be emailing more folks gradually.

#4 1 year ago

Sounds great . Any idea of approx cost ?

#5 1 year ago

Current titles are mostly $275. Check out his website: http://pinballglass.homestead.com/

#6 1 year ago
Quoted from Paja:

Sounds great . Any idea of approx cost ?

I have a brand new backglass in melbourne

#7 1 year ago

Model237 I would be interested in a Bowling Queen Back glass from Ron Webb.

#8 1 year ago
Quoted from Model237:

Current titles are mostly $275. Check out his website: http://pinballglass.homestead.com/

Keep in mind when comparing that Ron's website price includes shipping within the continental US.

#9 1 year ago

Add me to the list. Just completed a cabinet restore with an HSA restored playfield. Only a so-so glass though.

#10 1 year ago
Quoted from Ballypinball:

I have a brand new backglass in melbourne

Hi Paja, are you gonna pick up that glass from your mate, Ballypinball? Or you still on the Ron Webb list?

#11 1 year ago

Hoping to get the one off Ballypinball but at this stage still on the list

#12 1 year ago

I'll take one. Wouldn't really need it but someone didn't do such a good job sealing the one I have. It yellowed over time.

#13 1 year ago

Making progress! Six people interested so far, one maybe:

Model237
dmagic198
cpiel
dave58
Electrocute
Wedgehead (on pinballowners.com)

Paja - Maybe

#14 1 year ago

Thanks for the contact. Mine is not yet restored and the cab is stripped for a repaint. I think it's in nice enough condition for a repo back glass as mine is flaked. Put me down for a maybe now and I'll take a good look at the project to evaluate.

Eddie

#15 1 year ago

I am in, put me down for one

#16 1 year ago

Eight people interested, four Maybes - that's *sort of* 12!

c'mon folks - anyone else???

I'll email some international owners if no more after another week or so.

cpiel (on pinballowners.com) - Yes
dave58 - Yes
dmagic198 - Yes
EddiePi - Yes
Electrocute - Yes
Model237 - Yes
rcarlson - Yes
Wedgehead (on pinballowners.com) - Yes

MoeMan65 - Maybe
Paja - Maybe
Pinlizzy - Maybe
Swirvin in Canada (on pinballowners.com) - Maybe

1 week later
#17 1 year ago

I heard back from Ron: "... send me the list if you like and I will keep it here. I don't know a timeframe yet."

So PM me your names & addresses, then I will collect & send the resulting list to Ron.

If the four maybes on the list switch to yeses, we'll have the requisite 12 people!

2 weeks later
#18 1 year ago

I might be interested.

#19 1 year ago

Another Maybe here. Mine is players condition. Can I get a playfield with that?

#20 1 year ago
Quoted from catboxer:

Another Maybe here. Mine is players condition. Can I get a playfield with that?

Wouldn't that be nice. Playfield is decent but would buy one if Wade ever made it.

#21 1 year ago

OK, now we're down one Yes, and up 2 Maybes = 7 Yeses and 6 Maybes.

I've got the names & addresses of the 7 Yeses so far - thank you!

I'm pretty sure Ron will want 12 confirmed Yeses to proceed with the backglass.

*** Any Maybes want to move into the Yes column? ***

YES
cpiel (on pinballowners.com)
dave58
dmagic198
Electrocute
Model237
rcarlson
Wedgehead (on pinballowners.com)

MAYBE
EddiePi
MoeMan65
Pinlizzy
Swirvin in Canada (on pinballowners.com)
hawkeye11
catboxer

#22 1 year ago

You can move me from the maybe to the YES list!

#23 1 year ago

Thank you pinlizzy!

I'll go ahead and send the list of 8 to Ron, see what he says.

4 weeks later
#24 1 year ago

Just heard from Ron Webb that this will be the "First release of 2019"!

2 weeks later
#25 1 year ago

Sweet...

#26 1 year ago

I will take one, please.

1 month later
#27 1 year ago
Quoted from catboxer:

Another Maybe here. Mine is players condition. Can I get a playfield with that?

Just saw Micro is running Gottliebs for any playfield with 15 interested buyers. I wonder if we have the numbers and if they have films/art for BQ?

1 month later
#28 1 year ago

Is this happening? I may be interested. What is price?

#29 1 year ago
Quoted from catboxer:

Just saw Micro is running Gottliebs for any playfield with 15 interested buyers. I wonder if we have the numbers and if they have films/art for BQ?

Who is Micro? Ron alone has the rights, apparently, so I doubt any other vendor would be legit...

#30 1 year ago
Quoted from pinball419:

Is this happening? I may be interested. What is price?

No news, but Ron said this will be the "First release of 2019". Price will be around $275. If you're interested, PM me your contact info and I'll relay to Ron.

#31 1 year ago
Quoted from Model237:

Who is Micro? Ron alone has the rights, apparently, so I doubt any other vendor would be legit...

Sorry, Autocorrect. I meant Mirco https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mircoplayfields-is-doing-gottlieb-playfields/page/3#post-4504762

#32 1 year ago

Sorry, I misread, thought this was for backglasses. Great to hear about the playfields though!

#33 1 year ago

Hey Matt I have pm,d you regarding putting me back on the list. Cheers Paul

#34 1 year ago

Hi Paul, I just put myself down for another glass on your behalf. Will build a wooden crate and send it on to Oz...

3 months later
#35 9 months ago

Please put me down for a Bowling Queen backglass!

4 weeks later
#36 8 months ago

Update today from Ron: "Bowling Queen glass delayed, waiting for screener to notify me."

2 months later
#37 6 months ago

Another update from Ron: "Due to many unforeseen dilemmas, Bowling Queen is very delayed."

Sorry guys, that's all I got for now.

3 months later
#38 3 months ago

Latest update from Ron: "I am currently waiting for the crate, the first crate was damaged"

Anyone know what a crate is, in this context?

#39 3 months ago
Quoted from Model237:

Latest update from Ron: "I am currently waiting for the crate, the first crate was damaged"
Anyone know what a crate is, in this context?

Its the crate of 30 backglasses in from the screener

#40 3 months ago

Please put me in for a maybe. Need to check mine in storage for condition. Thanks

2 months later
#41 4 days ago

Bad news: I just emailed to check in with Ron, and he emailed back with, "Screener closed. Can't find any screener that meets my approval."

I called Ron to get the story. Here it is, rather interesting (please forgive any lapses/omissions - it's from memory and Ron talks fast):

Ron's screener guy at American Color Scans (ACS) kept stringing him along on the BQ job, then abruptly left ACS July 1st. ACS told Ron they can't do the job without a screener, and they are looking for a new person. But until then, they're not interested in the job. Ron's not sure they're even looking for a new screener; maybe this is how ACS quietly tiptoes away from the biz altogether..

So Ron's looking for a new screener. I asked why he needed a screener when the BQ screens are already cut, and he said they need to be recut: after 10-12 years, screens deteriorate and you get pinholes if you try printing with them.

The problem with finding a new screener is Ron has to get Gottlieb approval (Steve Young or Robert Fesjian) for both the screener and a sample backglass before Ron can begin production. But a screener/printer is going to charge a lot of $$$ to do a one-off sample, if they're even interested. Or Ron can pay to have a whole run produced and risk having Gottlieb reject them all. Either way, it's an expensive undertaking.

Ron said he'll keep me posted, and hopes a solution will turn up soon.

I also noticed an update on Ron's website: "ATTENTION: The company that was making backglasses for us has closed their doors. Therefore no product will be produced until I find a new screener that meets my standards of excellence."

#42 4 days ago
Quoted from Model237:

Bad news: I just emailed to check in with Ron, and he emailed back with, "Screener closed. Can't find any screener that meets my approval."

I called Ron to get the story. Here it is, rather interesting (please forgive any lapses/omissions - it's from memory and Ron talks fast):

Ron's screener guy at American Color Scans (ACS) kept stringing him along on the BQ job, then abruptly left ACS July 1st. ACS told Ron they can't do the job without a screener, and they are looking for a new person. But until then, they're not interested in the job. Ron's not sure they're even looking for a new screener; maybe this is how ACS quietly tiptoes away from the biz altogether..

So Ron's looking for a new screener. I asked why he needed a screener when the BQ screens are already cut, and he said they need to be recut: after 10-12 years, screens deteriorate and you get pinholes if you try printing with them.

The problem with finding a new screener is Ron has to get Gottlieb approval (Steve Young or Robert Fesjian) for both the screener and a sample backglass before Ron can begin production. But a screener/printer is going to charge a lot of $$$ to do a one-off sample, if they're even interested. Or Ron can pay to have a whole run produced and risk having Gottlieb reject them all. Either way, it's an expensive undertaking.

Ron said he'll keep me posted, and hopes a solution will turn up soon.

I also noticed an update on Ron's website: "ATTENTION: The company that was making backglasses for us has closed their doors. Therefore no product will be produced until I find a new screener that meets my standards of excellence."

Well, two words come to mind off the top of my head; "That Sucks".

#43 4 days ago

I agree that sucks. Someone must know of somebody else that can do this?

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