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1964 Bally Grand Tour (Not dead yet!)


By gdonovan

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

Thought you guys would get a kick out of this as there doesn't seem to be many of these machines about and it looks like to have a variant of paint on the head I have not seen yet. On with the story..

She popped up on CL several weeks ago and the seller was erratic... I'd get a single e-mail reply, try to setup a date to look it over.. and they would go radio silent. Tried using a different e-mail address... a requested day would come and go without contact. I think I took it at this point as a personal challenge to land the beast and last Thursday finally had an address and phone number.

It had spent 35+ years in a basement, before that it was in an arcade at Riverside Amusement park in MA which later became Six Flags.

Dad had been a cop and for some reason the park was getting rid of it (park was changing hands?) and he brought it home for the kids. At some point the son painted.. everything maroon. Why? Who knows. Back had never been opened, they had no clue the keys were hanging off the coin door.

First thing I did after unloading it from the Thursday was crack open a beer, pulled up a folding lawn chair and started picking the lock. 10 minutes later is was open and the glass was out and the back open. I tossed some elastics in it, about 40 light bulbs, threw away the ball the was literately covered in rust and fixed one of the flippers with a broken rollpin for evaluation.

Had bad solder joints, weak large gong solenoid, some hacks to the credit wheel, lots of dirty contacts, reset solenoid falling apart... 2 days later she was running at 100% and the paint stripper and sander came out the toolbox..

The paint on the head unit really surprised me, its now the third variant I have seen of a Grand Tour and the only one with a red triangle on the top. Very impressed with the cabinet workmanship, all the joints are tight and very crisp. Tonight going to work on making my patterns for the stencils and once that is done and verified will sand off the last of the paint and start dropping some primer on and doing some minor cabinet repair. Has a few minor scars and 3-4 holes to fill.

The playfield is actually very nice, some buffing compound really brought it back to life in the areas I tested. I'm going to strip it of most of the components and give it a good buff and wax.

Gary

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#2 3 years ago

Pictures of other variants. I swear I saw one where the inside edges of the backglass were blue but might have been a different title.

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#3 3 years ago

He painted the ball arch and apron too?
Look at that paint drip on the insides, jeez.

Good score (early 60s Ballys are hard to find.)
Good job on the restore.

#4 3 years ago

I have a question on these games. Do the switches that are in the ring area outside of the pop bumpers kill the action of the ball and kind of deaden the flow of the game? Seems to me I read that somewhere, but was wondering if anyone has any first hand experience?

#5 3 years ago
Quoted from aahgo:

I have a question on these games. Do the switches that are in the ring area outside of the pop bumpers kill the action of the ball and kind of deaden the flow of the game? Seems to me I read that somewhere, but was wondering if anyone has any first hand experience?

I would think it would keep the ball bouncing off the pops.

#6 3 years ago
Quoted from pinwiztom:

He painted the ball arch and apron too?
Look at that paint drip on the insides, jeez.
Good score (early 60s Ballys are hard to find.)
Good job on the restore.

Thanks! I'm not going to stop sanding and scraping till its all gone, BLEH! I might have even scored a nice apron for it.

Anyone know where to find the metal bushing plates for the flippers? There might be some machine work in the near future if I can't find any. She is a grand old lady, can't wait to see it all back together and buffed out.

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#7 3 years ago

Got lucky and scored a set of NOS bell coils off Ebay for $16 shipped, WOOT!

#8 3 years ago

Cool find saw that one on CL.. glad it got a good home

#9 3 years ago
Quoted from Gerry:

Cool find saw that one on CL.. glad it got a good home

It took a LONG time to finally get it and MUCH persistence.

Seller was a little erratic is a bit of an understatement.

#10 3 years ago

I first saw this offered as a candidate for a cabinet swap (used as parts for another machine).
Saw a few more snippets here and there, tried to keep up with it.
Glad to see this progress! I wanted it just because the before picture looked so hopeless.
That and its a cool machine and doesn't deserve dismantling.

#11 3 years ago
Quoted from gdonovan:

... Anyone know where to find the metal bushing plates for the flippers? There might be some machine work in the near future if I can't find any. ...

The machine work isn't terribly complicated. Drill and tap the three screw holes for the plastic bushing. Maybe some extra drilling/grinding to undo old repairs - like if someone brazed a loose bushing back on.

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#12 3 years ago

I love Bally machines and this thread is right up my alley. Thanks for posting and sharing your efforts. I look forward to seeing the final results.

#13 3 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

I love Bally machines and this thread is right up my alley. Thanks for posting and sharing your efforts. I look forward to seeing the final results.

Sorry I have not been posting more this week, between getting taxes done and whipping a Jungle King into working order been stretched thin. The JK has been a BEAR but is finally up and running as it should aside from not always posting 5 balls on coin up.

I think it has a weak solenoid in the coin advance unit, it just seems to short stroke the last ball count. More investigation required.

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#14 3 years ago

Today was "make a stencil" day.

Now that I have a pattern, I'm going to stack 2 more pieces of contact paper under the first and cut all three out at the same time.

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#15 3 years ago

Did some painting today, polished some chrome, stripped some paint.

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#16 3 years ago

1) Sandblasted the legs and painted them the original gray color with slight hammertone finish, never nice! Might get the coin door done tomorrow too. Leg levelers, rubber kit and flipper bushings came in today from PBR.

2) Spent some time on the buffing wheel cleaning up the plunger and related hardware.

3) Laid the lower cabinet on its side up on blocks (on the corners) and laid down a nice heavy final coat of paint. I'll let it sit for 48 hours, flip it over and do the same thing to the other side.

4) Have the day off tomorrow so I'm hoping to get the head unit into primer... assuming I'm not chasing after a new machine in the morning.

#17 3 years ago

Out in the sun to cure the paint a bit faster, polished and cleared the flipper buttons, installed, replaced missing button spring and installed tilt mech and wiring.

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#18 3 years ago

Sand blasted the coin door and surrounding trim and painted hammertone, they look gorgeous!

#19 3 years ago

Worked on the main control table so I could tuck it out the way. Went over it with a paint brush and compressed air to get all the dust out, replaced main solenoids 110V fuse holders and installed double snap rings to one of the solenoids. The original ring was missing and it had trouble resetting the relay bank for the 4 mushroom bumpers.

Installed the coin door and plunger.

Working on stripping the playfield so I can compound it out and decide if I'm going to clear coat it.

Stripped the paint off the apron, shooter panel and upper hoop.

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#20 3 years ago

Stripped the playfield, made some stands to keep the underside from being damaged, compounded and buffed the hell out of it. Looks nice but I'm going to check with the guy next door at work and see what he wants for clearcoating.

Sandblasted the lower and upper apron pieces and got them in primer.

Got the maroon paint off the rebound bumpers and polished them in the vibrating polisher.

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#21 3 years ago

Enjoying this thread! I have the Grand Tour in your last photo of the different heads. Someone painted all of the colors blue... will have to repaint eventually. Like yours, my playfield is in really nice shape. Backglass, not so much.

One really annoying thing about Ballys from this generation is the shooter housing. Just plain metal-on-metal, no sleeves, no bushings. Yech. Was thinking of replacing it with a later-edition (but similar-looking) shooter.

#22 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Enjoying this thread! I have the Grand Tour in your last photo of the different heads.

Thank you and very cool!

It is nice to hear from other Grand Tour owners! I was starting to think there are very few of these old girls (Grand Tour/Happy Tour) left out there, though there were two on Ebay in the past month and have been checking them out for reference.

#23 3 years ago

Haha...yup this seller was definitely erratic....I was in the running too. I think I heard back once....and that was after saying I worked in Agawam and could pick it up in a heartbeat.

Great score on your part. As someone who grew up at Riverside Park I'm glad a piece of its history can live on and that it's getting the love it needs. Keep up the good work, I can't wait to see the finished product!

Ed

#24 3 years ago

As much as I'm totally diggin' this pin save, please tell me that's a t-top Daytona there and by chance are you married to Dede McCall...Hunter? lol

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#25 3 years ago
Quoted from gmkalos:

As much as I'm totally diggin' this pin save, please tell me that's a t-top Daytona there and by chance are you married to Dede McCall...Hunter? lol

No its not but I have owned more than a few Daytonas back in the day.

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#26 3 years ago

Playfield is at the body shop for clear coat along with the aprons and side rails to be painted.

Polished 3/4 of the play-field plastics this weekend and tonight sanded down the head, repaired the scar on the side, glued a broken wood piece, filled some random holes and should be in primer tomorrow after the glue dries.

#27 3 years ago

I like, your cranking right along..

#28 3 years ago
Quoted from Gerry:

I like, your cranking right along..

Thanks! I'm blasting it with paint now and working on my Touchdown pin between coats!

Odd problem with the 1 and 10 reels "chattering" when hit, 100 / 1000 don't do it. Thought it was bum coils but did not make a difference. Don't mind tossing coils at it, after all they are only $10 a pop. Time to break out the diagram again...

#29 3 years ago

Polish and clean the contacts in the 10-point relay, then check the gaps. Dirty contacts can chatter in point relays.

#30 3 years ago

Also check your 10-point targets on the playfield and ensure they aren't bouncing/vibrating.

#31 3 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

Also check your 10-point targets on the playfield and ensure they aren't bouncing/vibrating.

I'm actually triggering the coil with the coil from the 100 reel (they are connected with jumper wires) and bypassing everything by jumping the contacts.

Damndest thing.

#33 3 years ago

Update- The flippers went into the polisher tonight and look great! The cabinet head is all in fresh paint and setting up to dry, looks great as well. I need to find the red and blue paint soon so I can paint the spacer between the head and cabinet so I can assemble it all.

#34 3 years ago

Ambling along.. Can't wait to see it back together.

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#35 3 years ago

Progress still happening.. if at a slower pace.

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#36 3 years ago

Is that a decal on the Apron? Looks nice.

#37 3 years ago
Quoted from aahgo:

Is that a decal on the Apron? Looks nice.

I think so, purchased the apron and shooter piece from a local pin guy.

#38 3 years ago

A present for Grand Tour owners.

I took the original card which was floating around the cabinet and scanned it in, cleaned it up as best able in Photoshop, made a "box" where the cutout normally is and then filled the box with the scoring info with a MS Gothic font.

You have the blank to use as a template for what ever you wish. Cut the opening out and set a card behind it as factory or add text as you see fit in editing program of your choice.

Gary

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#39 3 years ago

Another picture..

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#40 3 years ago

Awesome job at a repro of those cards.

#41 3 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Awesome job at a repro of those cards.

The font in the box is not quite right, it needs to be bold or something but I don't have that option installed on my computer. The "number of balls" card is from Inkochnito's which is close but the spacing is off from the originals.

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#42 3 years ago

Get with other owners or Inkochnito to see if they can either make or scan some files for you. Someone out there has to have originals they can scan for you.

#43 3 years ago
Quoted from Rat_Tomago:

Get with other owners or Inkochnito to see if they can either make or scan some files for you. Someone out there has to have originals they can scan for you.

Actually I sent what I had to Inkochnito and he generated sets for his website and the general public.

3 weeks later
#44 3 years ago

Still muddling along.. Playfield is back but not that satisfied with it.. one of the plastics got broken this weekend in a minor accident.. one fiber yoke got lost... I swear I'm almost ready to put this thing up for sale. Maybe after the truck is back on the road and Lucky Hand is done fate will smile a bit more kindly on me.

2 months later
#45 3 years ago

Playfield is back but will be a few weeks before I can get back too it!

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#46 3 years ago

Well, maybe I'll do a little work.

Decided since the parts for the playfield are taking up two work tables that the best thing for me to do is finish cleaning/polishing the pieces and install them to get the space back.

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#47 3 years ago

Lighting checks!

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#48 3 years ago

I swear elves visited last night and cleaned and polished the rest of the parts and assembled the machine.

Waiting for bushings and a coil from PBR before proceeding further. I need to tackle the backglass soon, I swear it has deteriorated since the project began.

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#49 3 years ago

Busy bee today!

Modified the flipper plates to accept plastic bushings and had to flip the EOS pin on the shoe to catch the EOS switch due to the flipped shoe. Fixed a few fussy light sockets (I'm sure more will show up) cleaned the match stepper as the thumper lights were erratic, cleaned the scoring reels, installed some frosted LED in the back box to protect the backglass and started painting.

My touch up skills are improving (my third job), back glass looks MUCH better. Some areas I did not touch up as they will actually look worse should you go there. Skin tones in particular directly in front of a light look like hell when touched up. Best to pull the bulb in that one spot if you can or just leave it alone if not too bad.

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