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1962 Williams Valiant 2nd Player Problem

By jodellus

4 years ago


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#6 4 years ago

I think you need to find why the game relay is tripping. It means "A game has started"; can you find where it links to on the schematic and show the full logic of how the game relay energizes? It shows "to 36-2" can you find & show that.

#8 4 years ago

One thing to remember with the relays on the bank is that they are latch/trip types. They need to only energize once and then they are in the "engerized" position until the next reset.

#11 4 years ago

To be clear — it is not constantly energized. It is energized once at which point it is tripped until the next bank reset. The Game relay switch opens when the relay trips so it is never energized again. Basically it prevents itself from being energized! (Power flows through one of its own switches.) A switch belongs to the relay of the same name.

#12 4 years ago

Do we know what the “CABINET THROUGH SW” is? On my Williams woodrail the flap at the end of he shooter lane has a switch that trips the game relay, does yours have a switch? That seems to be how the outhole index relay is energized.

#15 4 years ago

Can you follow the [65] wire (brown-white) from the outhole index relay to whatever switch it is?
Can you confirm that the outhole index relay is energized (causing the game relay to trip)?
It appears that the game relay energizes through a switch on the outhole index relay.

#30 4 years ago

You need to follow the schematic for the GAME RELAY. It has two paths through which it can be energized.

Block a switch on each path with card stock and see which one is permitting it to be energized.

Use the wire colors indicated on the schematic to find the right switch on the stack.

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#34 4 years ago

That make/break switch on the Tilt Latch Relay should be closed in one position and then closed in the other.

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